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Old 11-11-2015, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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I remember a time, not so long ago, when a Republican Prez gave out $300 and $600 tax rebates. I guess he was a socialist, too.
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Old 11-11-2015, 11:01 PM
 
Location: South Texas
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I remember a time, not so long ago, when a Republican Prez gave out $300 and $600 tax rebates. I guess he was a socialist, too.
He was a moderate establishment Republican who:
spent way too much money,
trampled civil liberties,
made two lousy (and one decent) Supreme Court nominations,
knowingly caused political prisoners to remain incarcerated until the end of his final term, and,
failed to exercise the power of the veto more often than not.

But he was not a socialist.
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Old 11-12-2015, 02:32 AM
 
Location: None
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I remember a time, not so long ago, when a Republican Prez gave out $300 and $600 tax rebates. I guess he was a socialist, too.
I'd characterize him as a big disappointment, but not a socialist. He's a prime example of why all politicians are deeply flawed. The United States wouldn't be $19 trillion in debt if politicians from both parties acted in the best interest of the people.

The goal of every politician is to get and stay elected. The best way to do that is give away money they don't have. Term limits and balanced budget laws would be a great disinfectant. But that requires the very people who those laws would affect to pass them. It's incredibly unlikely that's ever going to happen, because that would require voters to elect such people and hold them accountable. Based on the comments of many people in this forum there is a 0% chance of that.
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Old 11-12-2015, 05:24 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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and that would be because...?
Being of retirement age, and a veteran, do I get a double amount?
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Old 11-12-2015, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Northern IL
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I remember a time, not so long ago, when a Republican Prez gave out $300 and $600 tax rebates. I guess he was a socialist, too.
Did not agree with that either. Fixed nothing and stimulated nothing.
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Old 11-12-2015, 09:28 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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Being of retirement age, and a veteran, do I get a double amount?
I read someplace "no", just Googled, and can't find it.

But "no" would make sense, since the payment would be 3.9% of whatever you are receiving annually.
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Old 11-12-2015, 09:34 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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Didn't something like this happen several years back? Congress in light of nil to no COLA increases gave out lump sum payments to SS recipients?

Problem one sees this time around is there is plenty of pain going around economically. You have employees getting nil to little in terms of wage increases; yet Senator Warren wants to give those already getting a steady check more.

Yes, there wasn't a COLA increase this year nor much of one if any the past few IIRC because of low inflation. However during periods high inflation person saw their checks grow in response to generous COLA increases.

Point am making is things are tough all over, I for one certainly wouldn't turn my nose up at a check for $500 to $700.
Right. And who controls what is and is not in the CPI to measure inflation? It's very easy to manipulate the output when you control the input.
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Old 11-12-2015, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Florida
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If she wants to be generous that is ok if she is using her money but I don't want her giving my money away so she can feel good about her self. We are trillions in debt. Lets get control over spending and fraud before we give more money away.
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Old 11-12-2015, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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If she wants to be generous that is ok if she is using her money but I don't want her giving my money away so she can feel good about her self. We are trillions in debt. Lets get control over spending and fraud before we give more money away.
This would be state monies. Maybe take a few dollars from the handouts to corporations? No one seems to mind or protest those.
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Old 11-13-2015, 12:34 PM
 
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This would be state monies. Maybe take a few dollars from the handouts to corporations? No one seems to mind or protest those.
Only a complete fool thinks allowing companies to keep their own money is a handout. That's why no one minds or protests, it's only an issue to the low information schleebs.
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