Why is Oaklands crime rate higher than most? (Fresno, Montclair: attorneys, military)

[ssmaster]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Ive asked this question to all of the c-d middle class advocates time and time again and have never recieved an answer: What neighborhoods in SF or LA are solidly middle class, have terrific k-12 schools, are uber safe and are VERY affordable?

*crickets*

Better yet, which SF and LA neighborhoods are a better value for middle class families than Laurel, Maxwell Park or Upper Dimond???

Please enlighten us with the super long list of LA and SF neighborhoods that exonorate you from looking like hypocrites holding Oakland to an impossible double standard.

this is a valid point
where in san francisco (a mere 8 miles) away can you find a safe affordable walkable urban neighborhood ?

[DocGoldstein]

Originally Posted by dragontales

He would be a trusted and credible source.

Exactly, and the article would be pasted, and quoted every 2-3 post for good measure.

[DocGoldstein]

Originally Posted by ssmaster

this is a valid point
where in san francisco (a mere 8 miles) away can you find a safe affordable walkable urban neighborhood ?

Affordable to who? S.F is not a middle-class friendly city. It hasn't been since the 80s/90s. Anyone who has lived in the Bay Area knows this.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by ssmaster

this is a valid point
where in san francisco (a mere 8 miles) away can you find a safe affordable walkable urban neighborhood ?

Great schools+very low crime+middle class+very affordable

These are their constant knocks against Oakland areas considered middle class.

Well now here's their chance to present to us the names of neighborhoods in the urban core of SF and LA that meet ALL of those criteria.

#boom

[ssmaster]

Originally Posted by dragontales

What if this attorney wrote a positive Oakland article? Would it still be biased? Why is his piece being dismissed so fast?

i am dismissing this piece for 2 reasons.
a) he would not name what neighborhood he lives in and the definition of middle class is so subjective i cannot determine if he is legitamite or overly anxious.

b) he has an obvious political agenda specifically to have the city hire david kennedy as a consultant as opposed to william bratton.

[DocGoldstein]

I think most of us would be happy with great schools, and low crime in the "urban core". Doesn't exist in Oakland.

[DocGoldstein]

Originally Posted by ssmaster

i am dismissing this piece for 2 reasons.
a) he would not name what neighborhood he lives in and the definition of middle class is so subjective i cannot determine if he is legitamite or overly anxious.

b) he has an obvious political agenda specifically to have the city hire david kennedy as a consultant as opposed to william bratton.

You forgot one:

c) It paints a truthful picture of Oakland middle class living.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Great schools+very low crime+middle class+very affordable

These are their constant knocks against Oakland areas considered middle class.

Well now here's their chance to present to us the names of neighborhoods in the urban core of SF and LA that meet ALL of those criteria.

#boom

Nothing?

surprise surprise.

I thought so.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Nothing?

surprise surprise.

I thought so.

HEY! Don't be talkin' sense here.

[DocGoldstein]

Originally Posted by DocGoldstein

I think most of us would be happy with great schools, and low crime in the "urban core". Doesn't exist in Oakland.

Yup, no responses. Didn't think it existed.