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Just to interject but again, are you crazy saying this? Romney was setting up to get the liberal votes & as such, agree w/ Nor re the Obama-like bs. Clinton is also the backer of this garbage & how many docs have now left unable to even pay back med school loans? How many folks have inability to pay for their part in Obama's health plan? A disaster on both Romney & Obama's parts -- no matter how you view it.
You can't be serious saying the things you say, other than to disturb others w/ opposing views -- deliberately -- to appease your own sentiments. Think about this for a change, will you? Wow, what a load of bs you constantly post adding no legit feedback but rather, simply contrary opinions for the sake of stirring the pot aka trolling in a sense, no? It seems to clearly fit the definition quite well, am I not correct?
Ok, can't wait for some outrageous comeback a la your trite & worn-out style that really here has gotten quite old. I'm out.
I am simply saying that I think a Romney Presidency would have been different than an Obama Presidency, and somehow I "can't be serious"? Are you serious? How is that a controversial claim? I'm not saying everyone has to agree with it, but it hardly seems like something that I could only be saying to "disturb others w/opposing views."
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I'm certainly not a troll. I genuinely believe the things I'm saying.
Go down the list of things Obama has done, whether you like them or not. Look at the Supreme Court justices, for instance. You really believe that Romney would have appointed similar justices? Bush didn't. Bush's appointees were markedly different than Obama's appointees. Do you honestly believe Romney would have refused to sign a budget that cut funding for Planned Parenthood? I don't. I also can't imagine Romney refusing to defend the Defense of Marriage Act before the Supreme Court or seeking to end Don't Ask, Don't Tell. Do you think Romney would have signed the Paris climate deal? I don't.
I don't think these are absurd points I'm making. You can think all mainstream politicians are scum, and there may be some truth to that, but you can't honestly say there is no difference between the policies pursued by Republican and Democratic Presidents.
I don't understand this sentiment. Do you think Obamacare would be law if Romney had won? What about the monumental Supreme Court decisions in the last eight years, many of which are attributable to the nominees Obama has made?
I can agree that virtually all politicians exhibit some level of corruption and deception, but I don't agree that it doesn't matter who becomes Presiden
Remember that Romney had put in socialized medicine/ very similar to ACA in Mass. Remember that G. Bush 43 put in Drug coverage for SS. Remember that the Republicans passed on Obama's budget these past 5 years. My point is that, while some things might be different, the govt. continues to take away citizens freedoms, take over more control of everything, drive out business and manufacturing, and continue to go in debt, and subsidize laziness, criminals, and all kinds of evil, no matter which part is in office.
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Remember that Romney had put in socialized medicine/ very similar to ACA in Mass. Remember that G. Bush 43 put in Drug coverage for SS. Remember that the Republicans passed on Obama's budget these past 5 years. My point is that, while some things might be different, the govt. continues to take away citizens freedoms, take over more control of everything, drive out business and manufacturing, and continue to go in debt, and subsidize laziness, criminals, and all kinds of evil, no matter which part is in office.
Yup, and its been great. One of the best things he did for this state.
Those who say they would split probably have my lower opinion than any politician.
I love my country but I wouldn't say "my country , right or wrong." It isn't a lack of loyalty; it's a higher standard that dictates. My ancestry has a lot of German immigrants; half of them were Jewish; half were not. Had they not emigrated to the U.S., I doubt that a good many of them would say "my country, right or wrong." The present course of the United States and its present leadership and the direction it has taken is shameful to me. I'm not packing up and it certainly won't be over Trump but I certainly think that if we don't change course from where we are and have been, we will not be the country that was founded. And if there is a point to get out, I absolutely would. In fact, I'd be a heck of a lot prouder of Bebe in Israel than I am by the present administration, only to be continued by a win by HRC. (And I was a politican, and an honest one - they do exist)
I'm planning on being entertained by the adolescent antics of the Trumplings after their boy takes it on the chin Nov 8th. I predict they'll be almost as ridiculous as the birthers, of which Trump was the acknowledged leader.
Imagine if every person in this country who disliked both Clinton and Trump voted for Johnson/Weld. Then none of you would have to bug out.
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