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Old 03-18-2009, 04:09 PM
 
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It's nice IMO. Just wish it was a little taller.

Newhouse III is probably the only building constructed in Syracuse in the last 20 years I am impressed with....
SciTech looks good now too. I just couldn't find any pictures.

 
Old 03-18-2009, 04:13 PM
 
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Here's what the Children's Hospital is going to look like when finished:




 
Old 03-18-2009, 04:17 PM
 
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Default Height was Reduced on COE

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It's nice IMO. Just wish it was a little taller.

Newhouse III is probably the only building constructed in Syracuse in the last 20 years I am impressed with....


The building was slated to be 1 floor taller, however cost overruns prompted the reduction of one floor after construction began, thus reducing the building's impact on the blighted landscape and view from I-81/I-690. The 2008 annual report on the COE website will show this discrepancy. I'm sure if this was the Center of Excellence in Bioinformatics in Pataki's, Spitzer's, and Patterson's beloved Buffalo, no expense would be spared. Same can be said for the billions invested in nanotech in Albany and most recently AMD/Luther Forest in Malta. Yet of course the state will be happy to cut corners in Syracuse.
 
Old 03-18-2009, 04:27 PM
 
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Can anyone name a dying US city over 100,000 with inner city poverty that has successfully stopped suburban growth?

There are none.

Why is that?

Maybe the rest of the country has figured out that it is detrimental to the city to stop sprawl outright.

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Old 03-18-2009, 04:31 PM
 
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I find Newhouse III to be kind of boring really, its a kind of neo-70s derivative. Its just curvy, but aside from that its pretty basic. The dashed/variegated curtain wall is basically just a cheap update on normal glass facades; its cheaper to color it than to make an interesting form. I worked in the office of the local architect (King & King worked on it alongside the design architects) that did the Children's hospital when I was in college, there were a lot of issues that kept it from being built as originally designed, but I think it some ways it actually helped.
 
Old 03-18-2009, 04:34 PM
 
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Just so my message is clear on this topic:

I believe the Syracuse metro can grow in population with enough job growth.

Which means when the Syracuse area starts growing again, a percentage of the growing population will choose to live in the city. That is how all cities across the US are revitalized. Not by stopping suburban growth.

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Old 03-18-2009, 04:40 PM
 
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The building was slated to be 1 floor taller, however cost overruns prompted the reduction of one floor after construction began, thus reducing the building's impact on the blighted landscape and view from I-81/I-690. The 2008 annual report on the COE website will show this discrepancy. I'm sure if this was the Center of Excellence in Bioinformatics in Pataki's, Spitzer's, and Patterson's beloved Buffalo, no expense would be spared. Same can be said for the billions invested in nanotech in Albany and most recently AMD/Luther Forest in Malta. Yet of course the state will be happy to cut corners in Syracuse.
You're right. So typical! Now I remember why about 5 years ago I stopped caring about the city and began focusing my attention on the suburbs where things actually happen in a timely manner. The leadership in the suburbs actually do listen to your advice too. How about that!!!

BTW, I used to promote the city a lot before I realized that no matter how much I tried to give advice to city leadership, no one would listen.
 
Old 03-18-2009, 04:44 PM
 
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I think city leadership is pretty retarded. But the only way to have a growing city is through a vibrant urban community, otherwise you just have exurbs. There's also no real reason to go through the city goverment to promote it, real lasting revitalization is a grassroots effort anyway. Otherwise its just cosmetic.
 
Old 03-18-2009, 04:45 PM
 
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I don't push against the city on the City Data forums. All I do on this forum give advice to people looking to relocate to CNY. I do not suggest living in the city for two basic reasons.

1) I would not live in the city in it's current condition, so I'd feel guilty for suggesting others to do so.

2) I have yet to hear of one person that moved the city of Syracuse in the last 10 years from outside of Upstate NY and loves it there. I have heard many people that moved to the suburbs of Syracuse and do love it here.

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Old 03-18-2009, 04:50 PM
 
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on point 2, my friend M did just that, he's from north Jersey, went to college with a friend of mine at RIT, and works at Syracuse Research corp. Also, my friend A went to Cornell with me, teaches at SU now, and loves living in Armory Square. He's originally from Madrid, so he has a pretty good sense of what a big city is like. There have also been many posters on here who have given their own positive experience with the city.
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