Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Urban Planning
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: ?
Outside 9 12.68%
Center 62 87.32%
Voters: 71. You may not vote on this poll

Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 08-20-2014, 02:12 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
44,585 posts, read 81,206,701 times
Reputation: 57821

Advertisements

From an environmental view, the stadiums should all be placed closer to the affluent suburbs where most of the fans come from. Other than season ticket holders I don't know that there is a way to track it, but in the cities I am familiar with it seems that more fans are coming in from the nearby suburbs than from residents of the city itself. Traffic patterns before and after games will provide evidence of this. For example, the Oakland A's could reduce traffic and smog by building a new stadium in Walnut Creek/Concord. The 49ers have already done a pretty good job of this by moving to Santa Clara, but made it worse for the Marin fans.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 08-20-2014, 02:28 PM
 
Location: The City
22,378 posts, read 38,935,335 times
Reputation: 7976
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hemlock140 View Post
From an environmental view, the stadiums should all be placed closer to the affluent suburbs where most of the fans come from. Other than season ticket holders I don't know that there is a way to track it, but in the cities I am familiar with it seems that more fans are coming in from the nearby suburbs than from residents of the city itself. Traffic patterns before and after games will provide evidence of this. For example, the Oakland A's could reduce traffic and smog by building a new stadium in Walnut Creek/Concord. The 49ers have already done a pretty good job of this by moving to Santa Clara, but made it worse for the Marin fans.
not sure that logic work with all cities
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-20-2014, 03:16 PM
 
358 posts, read 451,210 times
Reputation: 312
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katiana View Post
1. What does that have to do with whether it's located downtown or on the periphery?

2. It has been shown over, and over, and over AGAIN that football stadiums are used for more than football!
Cost/benefit. It can be a lot more expensive to build a stadium downtown. If the stadium is used 80+ days, that can benefit downtown businesses and encourage new development. For 8 games a year, that benefit may be minimal compared to the costs. For those football stadiums that are used throughout the year for other events, it certainly could be beneficial to build it downtown.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-20-2014, 06:38 PM
 
605 posts, read 669,828 times
Reputation: 1129
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hemlock140 View Post
From an environmental view, the stadiums should all be placed closer to the affluent suburbs where most of the fans come from. Other than season ticket holders I don't know that there is a way to track it, but in the cities I am familiar with it seems that more fans are coming in from the nearby suburbs than from residents of the city itself. Traffic patterns before and after games will provide evidence of this. For example, the Oakland A's could reduce traffic and smog by building a new stadium in Walnut Creek/Concord. The 49ers have already done a pretty good job of this by moving to Santa Clara, but made it worse for the Marin fans.
That would not really work because a lot of professional sports teams tend to draw attendance from a very large area such as the New York Yankees, Washington Redskins, or Dallas Cowboys. If you want to reduce the environmental impact it would be more effective to build stadiums or arenas near mass transit lines and with easy access to major freeways so fans will have multiple access points to attend events.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-21-2014, 06:23 AM
gg
 
Location: Pittsburgh
26,137 posts, read 25,983,158 times
Reputation: 17378
Pittsburgh has it the best of any city. Perfect location in the city with great views of the beautiful buildings and rivers. Doesn't get any better, but I wish they put black seats in the football stadium. The yellow ones look tacky.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-21-2014, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
28,226 posts, read 36,883,248 times
Reputation: 28563
It depends on many factors. All stadiums, regardless of location, should have multiple ways to access them: roads, multiple modes of transit, walking, biking. They also need smart parking and transportation plans in place to make sure events go smoothly and do not cause too much gridlock.

And cities should not waste their money on single use facilities. All should be mixed use with diverse events scheduled all throughout the year.

Ideally, someone should be able to watch, play and eat within walking distance of the stadium. Once all that is worked out, the location is secondary.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-21-2014, 02:15 PM
 
2,491 posts, read 2,680,778 times
Reputation: 3393
Quote:
Originally Posted by jade408 View Post
It depends on many factors. All stadiums, regardless of location, should have multiple ways to access them: roads, multiple modes of transit, walking, biking. They also need smart parking and transportation plans in place to make sure events go smoothly and do not cause too much gridlock.

And cities should not waste their money on single use facilities. All should be mixed use with diverse events scheduled all throughout the year.

Ideally, someone should be able to watch, play and eat within walking distance of the stadium. Once all that is worked out, the location is secondary.
Reminded me of the thread about the Super Bowl this year at Giants Stadium.
You could not walk or bike to the game and the trains were overwhelmed.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-21-2014, 02:28 PM
nei nei won $500 in our forum's Most Engaging Poster Contest - Thirteenth Edition (Jan-Feb 2015). 

Over $104,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum and additional contests are planned
 
Location: Western Massachusetts
45,983 posts, read 53,496,782 times
Reputation: 15184
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddyline View Post
Reminded me of the thread about the Super Bowl this year at Giants Stadium.
You could not walk or bike to the game and the trains were overwhelmed.
I wasn't following too carefully, but I think that was from poor planning on NJTransit's part. The rail agency assumed fewer would use the trains. It was also on a single-track rail line not capable of that high frequencies, though it still could have better.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-21-2014, 09:10 PM
 
2,491 posts, read 2,680,778 times
Reputation: 3393
Quote:
Originally Posted by nei View Post
I wasn't following too carefully, but I think that was from poor planning on NJTransit's part. The rail agency assumed fewer would use the trains. It was also on a single-track rail line not capable of that high frequencies, though it still could have better.

I'm sure there was some bad planning by the train people, but it was largely due to the fact you could neither walk or bike to this years Super Bowl.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-21-2014, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
28,226 posts, read 36,883,248 times
Reputation: 28563
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddyline View Post
I'm sure there was some bad planning by the train people, but it was largely due to the fact you could neither walk or bike to this years Super Bowl.
The new Levi Stadium is silly too. They closed the direct bike trails for game day. *smh*

Roadshow: What to expect at 49ers' first game at Levi's Stadium - San Jose Mercury News
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Urban Planning

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:42 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top