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Old 05-15-2015, 07:47 AM
 
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Four years into the future, but Trader Joe's? Seems like the perfect spot and the right size. This project replaces the block where Platos Diner and the adjoining hotel currently occupy across the street from ZIPS dry cleaners. To be delivered in 2019. The first rendering is looking northeast as if looking at Platos in the foreground and the hotel toward campus.

The second rendering is looking south as if looking at the hotel in the foreground toward University Park and Riverdale Park. Hopefully the restaurant would be Platos reborn. We'll see if they can afford the new lease. My family loves Platos. It is your quintessential neighborhood diner with good food. We eat there for breakfast about twice a month. Love their Crab Benedict!

http://www.jbgr.com/wp-content/uploa...Mixed-Use4.pdf





Nice!!! JUST what the town needed. It should be one of their busiest stores....seasonal maybe
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Old 05-15-2015, 08:34 AM
 
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Default Hyatt House Coming To Riverdale Park

It was announced that Hyatt House would be the operator of the hotel at the Cafritz site with Whole Foods on Rt. 1. Not a bad choice. it would be for those professionals visiting M-Square and perhaps the university as well.


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Calvin Cafritz Enterprises, the owner of the 36-acre Riverdale Park Station development, will add a Hyatt House hotel there during the next few years.

The 120-room hotel is projected to open in mid- to late-2017 and will have an extended-stay component, a staple of many of that brand’s properties.
Hyatt House hotel will join Whole Foods at Riverdale Park Station - Washington Business Journal
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Old 05-21-2015, 07:05 AM
 
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http://www.collegeparkmd.gov/develop...__May_2015.pdf
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Old 05-21-2015, 10:11 AM
 
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Four years into the future, but Trader Joe's? Seems like the perfect spot and the right size. This project replaces the block where Platos Diner and the adjoining hotel currently occupy across the street from ZIPS dry cleaners. To be delivered in 2019. The first rendering is looking northeast as if looking at Platos in the foreground and the hotel toward campus.

The second rendering is looking south as if looking at the hotel in the foreground toward University Park and Riverdale Park. Hopefully the restaurant would be Platos reborn. We'll see if they can afford the new lease. My family loves Platos. It is your quintessential neighborhood diner with good food. We eat there for breakfast about twice a month. Love their Crab Benedict!

http://www.jbgr.com/wp-content/uploa...Mixed-Use4.pdf
That's a bit rich coming from someone who just posted they had been to the TJ on R 29 and still doesn't "get" Trader Joe's .........It's got 3X the average sales per sf of any grocery chain bar WFM. Aldi, who own TJ are laughing all the way to thebank.


Maybe there just isn't enough info in that rendering, but I find it hard to see a Trader Joe's or any alternative jumping at that location, simply because of parking. Seems they've allocated just 87 spaces for 70,000sqf of retail, which is only about 33% of traditional suburban retail ratio of 3.3 spaces per 1,000 sf.. Seems like the retail parking is surface or on top with res parking below. I think they need to go down and add another level of retail parking.

Granted this location is closer to urban, than suburban, but if the main anchor space is 25,000 sf that's twice the size of a TJ. Other than a grocery store who would take that? Then why would TJ go into the 15,700 "junior anchor" space? Something's not working for me here. Maybe they'll end up sub dividing the space?


OTOH, maybe Lidl, Aldi's biggest competitor, who have now overtaken Aldi in Germany, and who are coming to the US, and who just dropped $56M for a new US corporate HQ in Arlington, and plan to open 100 stores on the US east coast in 2018, will take the plunge. Their model is a "Lidl" different to Aldi's, and they'll need to be adventurous to gain traction. But I still doubt it, they need parking just like everyone else.
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Old 05-21-2015, 10:31 AM
 
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That's a bit rich coming from someone who just posted they had been to the TJ on R 29 and still doesn't "get" Trader Joe's .........It's got 3X the average sales per sf of any grocery chain bar WFM. Aldi, who own TJ are laughing all the way to thebank.
Well, that's just my personal opinion. But there are a lot of people In College Park who have gone to great lengths to bring TJ to College Park. If so, I'm okay with that. Like I said, downtown College Park is unfortunately a food dessert. The smaller space seemed to fit a TJ nicely. On the other hand, would Whole Foods and its new cheaper offshoot directed at Millenials fit the space? Who knows. But the developer seems to expect some type of grocer to fit there.

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Maybe there just isn't enough info in that rendering, but I find it hard to see a Trader Joe's or any alternative jumping at that location, simply because of parking. Seems they've allocated just 87 spaces for 70,000sqf of retail, which is only about 33% of traditional suburban retail ratio of 3.3 spaces per 1,000 sf.. Seems like the retail parking is surface or on top with res parking below. I think they need to go down and add another level of retail parking.
I would say TJs on 29 has a good 20 or so spaces exclusively for them, then those in the front are shared with the rest of the retail. For a 25k sqft store, you're not coming out with much. Perhaps they feel that a bulk of the customers would be students on foot or bike?

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Granted this location is closer to urban, than suburban, but if the main anchor space is 25,000 sf that's twice the size of a TJ. Other than a grocery store who would take that? Then why would TJ go into the 15,700 "junior anchor" space? Something's not working for me here. Maybe they'll end up sub dividing the space?
It will be interesting to see how it all pans out. Sometimes these renderings change over the years. This is 5 years out. I wouldn't be surprised if it changed again. But this is currently what they are pitching to potential retail lessees.

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OTOH, maybe Lidl, Aldi's biggest competitor, who have now overtaken Aldi in Germany, and who are coming to the US, and who just dropped $56M for a new US corporate HQ in Arlington, and plan to open 100 stores on the US east coast in 2018, will take the plunge. Their model is a "Lidl" different to Aldi's, and they'll need to be adventurous to gain traction. But I still doubt it, they need parking just like everyone else.
Never heard of Lidl. I'd be happy for anything to be downtown. sad you can't get a simple fresh apple downtown.
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Old 05-21-2015, 12:05 PM
 
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Never heard of Lidl.
Lidl seeking workers as U.S. launch draws near | Limited Assortment content from Supermarket News

The wiki is out of date.

Lidl - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 05-21-2015, 12:09 PM
 
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Cool. My wife likes to shop at Aldi from time to time.
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Old 05-31-2015, 10:23 PM
 
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Four years into the future, but Trader Joe's? Seems like the perfect spot and the right size.
The 25,000-square-foot space identified for a grocer is too large for TJ's, which averages more like 15,000. That "restaurant" space at the north end is the right size, though.

Another challenge for a grocer is that it's on the west side of Route 1. Among grocers' considerations is being on the "home-bound" side of the street -- i.e., a right-in-right-out for PM rush hour commuters. On Route 1, that means the east side of the street.

It'll be interesting to watch Lidl's strategy. They've got quite a few HQ job postings up in Arlington right now.
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Old 06-01-2015, 01:34 PM
 
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Another piece on the art project - a few more transformative projects like this downtown and CP will not only look different but will feel different.

Arts Venue to Change Tune of College Park ‹ TERP
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Old 06-01-2015, 02:03 PM
 
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Another piece on the art project - a few more transformative projects like this downtown and CP will not only look different but will feel different.

Arts Venue to Change Tune of College Park ‹ TERP
Milkboy isn't a bad pedigree. College Park students should be excited.

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The Clarice Smith Performing Arts Center and Philadelphia music venue MilkBoy are teaming up to open what they’re temporarily calling “art house” in Fall 2016.
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The predecessor and flagship MilkBoy the Studio was originally founded nearly 20 years ago and is now internationally recognized as a premier recording studio for musical artists ranging from R. Kelly to Erykah Badu, Miley Cyrus to The Roots. Every live show, every late night drink, every dish from the kitchen at MilkBoy Philadelphia– it is all inspired by MilkBoy’s roots in music and the thriving music scene that got it all started.
MilkBoy the Studio
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