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I'm 32. I've been around the private sector merry-go-around long enough to know that most of its promises are BS. My employer is supposed to match 401k annually. I've been here long enough to have two matches, yet have been told I don't qualify due to timing, despite meeting all matching qualification criteria from day 1. It's BS.
I'm a finalist for a state position in Nashville. I live in northeast TN. The state pays better, slightly so accounting for the COL difference. The benefits are massively better. My employer is unstable with people being hired and fired left and right. The state is likely more stable.
I'd be a fool to not take the state job if offered.
I was just up in your neck of the woods last week. You are rather in the butt end of Tennessee so I can see how the state job will pay more than where you live now. The competitive question though is what's the market for your job around Nashville/Murfreesboro? Private sector job down around Charlotte or over toward the Research Triangle would certainly pay better than where you are today. Wish you luck in getting that Nashville job.
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That's also what I'm seeing here at the epicenter of federal employment. Long time employees at or near my age are staying, especially those for whom federal employment is a second career (typically for the ones I know are military retirees who then went to the civilian end of the government), while younger employees are punching their federal card for a few years then transitioning to contractors doing the same thing they did as a fed. Often at the same agency and using the same office.
What I'm seeing is jobs that a HS grad could easily do now require a bachelors. And these jobs often pay considerably less than $20 an hour. Is it really worth it to spend 4 years and thousands of dollars to get a job that pays that little? You can get a job here at Hobby Lobby stocking shelves for $15 an hour, no degree required.
I was just up in your neck of the woods last week. You are rather in the butt end of Tennessee so I can see how the state job will pay more than where you live now. The competitive question though is what's the market for your job around Nashville/Murfreesboro? Private sector job down around Charlotte or over toward the Research Triangle would certainly pay better than where you are today. Wish you luck in getting that Nashville job.
An employer similar to mine in Asheville had a minimum pay of $78,600 for a role similar to mine. I make $60,000. Granted, Asheville has a higher cost of living, and there are issues with that particular employer that would make me hesitant to work there.
I would expect the larger markets to pay at least as well.
What I'm seeing is jobs that a HS grad could easily do now require a bachelors. And these jobs often pay considerably less than $20 an hour. Is it really worth it to spend 4 years and thousands of dollars to get a job that pays that little? You can get a job here at Hobby Lobby stocking shelves for $15 an hour, no degree required.
What 'career' job pays lower than $20 per hour? Doctor? Biomedical researcher? Lawyer? Dentist? Career counselor? Teacher? Police officer? Nurse? Mathematician? Scientist? Park Ranger? Pharmacist?
Good lord; jobs that a HS grad can do don't require bachelors. Never did before, don't now. These jobs are fast-food, lawn-mowing, busboy, ticket agent, construction, etc. NONE of those require bachelors, nor are any of these career path jobs. What does require a bachelors is a job where some working knowledge of anything- and proof of the ability to learn is involved- especially in a job that has a clear path to advancement. The last thing I would ever do is promote someone with no knowledge about anything into a position where they interface with people that are knowledgeable. It lowers the bar for the entire company.
What 'career' job pays lower than $20 per hour? Doctor? Biomedical researcher? Lawyer? Dentist? Career counselor? Teacher? Police officer? Nurse? Mathematician? Scientist? Park Ranger? Pharmacist?
Good lord; jobs that a HS grad can do don't require bachelors. Never did before, don't now. These jobs are fast-food, lawn-mowing, busboy, ticket agent, construction, etc. NONE of those require bachelors, nor are any of these career path jobs. What does require a bachelors is a job where some working knowledge of anything- and proof of the ability to learn is involved- especially in a job that has a clear path to advancement. The last thing I would ever do is promote someone with no knowledge about anything into a position where they interface with people that are knowledgeable. It lowers the bar for the entire company.
RNs in my neck of the woods start at $18/hr. Lower end nurses will never hit $20/hr.
What 'career' job pays lower than $20 per hour? Doctor? Biomedical researcher? Lawyer? Dentist? Career counselor? Teacher? Police officer? Nurse? Mathematician? Scientist? Park Ranger? Pharmacist?
Good lord; jobs that a HS grad can do don't require bachelors. Never did before, don't now. These jobs are fast-food, lawn-mowing, busboy, ticket agent, construction, etc. NONE of those require bachelors, nor are any of these career path jobs. What does require a bachelors is a job where some working knowledge of anything- and proof of the ability to learn is involved- especially in a job that has a clear path to advancement. The last thing I would ever do is promote someone with no knowledge about anything into a position where they interface with people that are knowledgeable. It lowers the bar for the entire company.
Programming didn't require a bachelor's degree in the 70s. Lots and lots of enlisted Navy programmers got out and got coding jobs in lots of corporations.
RNs in my neck of the woods start at $18/hr. Lower end nurses will never hit $20/hr.
Your area is not a great area for them. The average pay for RNs, in the US, in order from lowest to highest mean salary started at $27, went to $49 and change. Average salary in Tennessee was $28.87.
Programming didn't require a bachelor's degree in the 70s. Lots and lots of enlisted Navy programmers got out and got coding jobs in lots of corporations.
There is a very large difference between 1970s era mainframe "data processing" and modern "software engineering."
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