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So you want the guy with 10 sacks of peanuts to share them all with everyone? Guess what? Thats called communism. Or in simpler terms: "WAAAAAH!" Geez, so someone has it better than you. Cry about it some more why dont ya?
We should have never let them steal it off our backs in the first place.
And I'm glad that I'm raising my children to understand that hard work should be appropriately compensated. If someone wants it from you they shouldn't pay you nickels and dimes for it. Hard work to accomplish a goal like becoming a vet is great. Hard work so that a cheap creep can buy his third vacation home while you rely on food stamps to eat is stupid.
Yeah it is that simple. Eight dollars an hour translates into about 16k a year or poverty level wages. Pay someone poverty level wages and you have no business whining they give you poverty level work. We all know that. That's why Wal-Mart doesn't stand for quality. I have no idea why this obvious fact offends you so much. Please tell me you're not an employer. Because that's a delusional stance even in this crappy job market.
For the sake of accuracy, the poverty line for one person is more like $11,000, so if you're making $16,000 a year you're doing quite well by the standards of the government, and according to pythonis, you're probably living the american dream.
So you want the guy with 10 sacks of peanuts to share them all with everyone? Guess what? Thats called communism. Or in simpler terms: "WAAAAAH!" Geez, so someone has it better than you. Cry about it some more why dont ya?
OMG is this a website frequented by lawyers, accountants, and other uppity rich folk? Are you all complaining that $8 an hour wouldnt let you go on those luxurious cruises and island getaways once a month like youre use to getting?
I think it is more that this board is frequented by people who have seen job requirements get ever stricter, but salaries decrease. For example, in the science field where I currently work, entry level jobs used to start at around 22K with a 4 year degree and pretty much little to no experience. Now (10 years later), the same entry level position requires a 4 year degree, 4 years of experience while in undergrad, 2-3 years experience full time after undergrad, very specific experience (we want you to do experiments A, B, and C...if you only know experiments A, but also D and E...we don't want you), for a starting salary of 25K. So 10 years worth of inflation and increased expectations results in 4K increase (discounting inflation) in salary?
How is it that jobs can be entry level and require YEARS of experience?
I think it is more that this board is frequented by people who have seen job requirements get ever stricter, but salaries decrease. For example, in the science field where I currently work, entry level jobs used to start at around 22K with a 4 year degree and pretty much little to no experience. Now (10 years later), the same entry level position requires a 4 year degree, 4 years of experience while in undergrad, 2-3 years experience full time after undergrad, very specific experience (we want you to do experiments A, B, and C...if you only know experiments A, but also D and E...we don't want you), for a starting salary of 25K. So 10 years worth of inflation and increased expectations results in 4K increase (discounting inflation) in salary?
How is it that jobs can be entry level and require YEARS of experience?
That's actually a 3k increase. Your employer should lower the salary to, say, minimum wage, but with no experience requirements. That appears to be the salary most 4 year degrees are worth these days.
That's actually a 3k increase. Your employer should lower the salary to, say, minimum wage, but with no experience requirements. That appears to be the salary most 4 year degrees are worth these days.
Oops, I actually meant to type 26K. I think my finger slipped. But WHY should the same job provide LESS money than 10 years before? Even if you drop the requirements to high school diploma and being able to spell DNA?
And from 2002 to 2012, accounting for inflation, the base salary should be 28K. So at 25K (or 26K), you actually make LESS than you would have in 2002.
So you are teaching your children they are worth more then what they may actually be worth. This is the entitlement attitude that is destroying our country. It sounds as if you would rather you children live on welfare then work, because you want them to think that they should be entitled to a certain amount of money no matter what they do.
Just because you believe the person is worth more then the pay, does not mean the specific job is worth more then the pay.
and btw.... 16k is above poverty level, not at poverty level.
I am teaching my kids not to work for entitled twits who think they should get filet mignon for the cost of hamburger. When you pay so little people qualify for welfare. This means that others are literally subsidizing your profits. That is an absurd mindset: pay as little as you can get away with and whine that your employees aren't grateful enough. Maybe you'll get lucky and my kids will be your kid's employers. This way your kids will be treated humanely and respectfully instead like peons who should happy to be patronized.
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