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It's a breakaway supplicant subsisting on transfers. And will continue to shake a tin cup at the remainder of Canada, the U.S. and the U.N.
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Originally Posted by ViveLeQuebecLibre
Also, we are allowed to legally secede under Canadian law.
Quebec was one of the founding provinces. It helped make the terms on which it entered Confederation. Is joining a nation supposed to be a game of "heads I win tails you lose?
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Originally Posted by ViveLeQuebecLibre
The American civil war makes no parallels to Quebec separatism.
It's actually a very close parallel. And both are severely prejudicial to minorities left behind.
And that means what? It's a breakaway supplicant subsisting on transfers. And will continue to shake a tin cup at the remainder of Canada, the U.S. and the U.N.Quebec was one of the founding provinces. It helped make the terms on which it entered Confederation. Is joining a nation supposed to be a game of heads I win tails you lose?
It's actually a very close parallel. And both are severely prejudicial to minorities left behind.
From PBeauchamp's own words, he just needs to "squeeze Canada dry like a ripened fruit waiting to be plucked." Very graphic/poetic and demonstrates lots of creative potential as an individual
I am a francophone who was born outside of Quebec and went to school in English. I only spoke French at home with my dad so eventually I came close to becoming better in English than in French. At age 12 or 13 when my dad (almost a unilingual francophone) moved us to Quebec and I finally went to school in French for the first time. I went to three universities, UdM, U of Ottawa, and I started to do my PhD at Simon Fraser when I had a change in the direction of my life. Anyhow, I am fully fluent in English and have a good enough grasp to contemplate completing a PhD in English, but I am told have an accent when I speak English. Now I run a business just outside of Montreal and live day to day life in French, but occasionally dabble in American media and books.
Pierre Trudeau, who I call Trudeau the Smarter was a Quebecker with an equally good and creative grasp of English. For example "I've been called worse things by better people." Or "fuddle duddle." Or "just watch me."
I don't think that things would go back to the bad old days of discrimination. Quebec and its francophone population have matured a lot in their identity and self-assuredness, and have become way more educated, prosperous and savvy.
I do think that the linguistic and cultural erosion pressures could accentuate greatly though, and this in turn might lead to a bit of turmoil and fireworks in light of the nature of the francophone population that we have today as opposed to back then when more people felt powerless - on an individual level at least, which is why large collective movements were formed, including some revolutionary ones.
It would not go back as it was, but it doesn't mean that french would'nt be threatened either. In 1960 the people were less educated overall, but the will to survive as a nation was strong and obvious vs today more educated citizens but with very a weak collective interest, too much information, agressive lobbies, crystalization of voters based political strategy, etc makes it more unlikely to have citizen really willing to fight for anything requiring more 10 minutes of introspection...
I'm pushing a bit here, but I think you get the point, which is: we are not necessarly safer 'culturally' just because we're more educated and more confident (not confident enough to assume ourselves fully though)
It would not go back as it was, but it doesn't mean that french would'nt be threatened either. In 1960 the people were less educated overall, but the will to survive as a nation was strong and obvious vs today more educated citizens but with very a weak collective interest, too much information, agressive lobbies, crystalization of voters based political strategy, etc makes it more unlikely to have citizen really willing to fight for anything requiring more 10 minutes of introspection...
I'm pushing a bit here, but I think you get the point, which is: we are not necessarly safer 'culturally' just because we're more educated and more confident (not confident enough to assume ourselves fully though)
It is a plausible scenario that a 21st century Quebec without Bill 101 would eventually lead to people of French Canadian origin to be primarily anglophone, but with the same high standard of living than they enjoy today.
I am a francophone who was born outside of Quebec and went to school in English. I only spoke French at home with my dad so eventually I came close to becoming better in English than in French. At age 12 or 13 when my dad (almost a unilingual francophone) moved us to Quebec and I finally went to school in French for the first time. I went to three universities, UdM, U of Ottawa, and I started to do my PhD at Simon Fraser when I had a change in the direction of my life. Anyhow, I am fully fluent in English and have a good enough grasp to contemplate completing a PhD in English, but I am told have an accent when I speak English. Now I run a business just outside of Montreal and live day to day life in French, but occasionally dabble in American media and books.
That sounds like a highly similar life path to mine, with a few differences.
That sounds like a highly similar life path to mine, with a few differences.
How was your path different?
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