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Old 02-20-2012, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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You know that's something I've always wondered about.....why does Satan, knowing full well God's plan for him in the end, continue to wreak havoc and evil? Does he know something that we don't? Any thoughts?
I feel quite sure that Satan is completely confident, even now, that in the end he will triumph. I don't think he even considers the alternative to be a possibility.
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Old 02-20-2012, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Jesus said, Satan is a liar and the father of lies.
Jesus said, there is No Truth In him.

So Satan the father of lies can not believe 'Truth'.
Until God lays hold on us by His saving grace and causes Jesus to be "choice" in our heart, we are all liars. I believe a time is coming when Satan will not only believe the Truth, but will bow down in love and adoration in front of Him.

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“God delights to reconcile all, whether those on the earth, or those in the heavens (Col. 1:20). Therefore there is no more reason to suppose that Satan is not included therein than that any other certain creature is not included therein. Therefore it must be that that notable creature who had rightly long been termed “the Adversary,” is very much included in the reconciliation of the universe, at which time this title (“Adversary” or “Satan”) necessarily will no longer apply, since he will be reconciled and be at peace.”
Jim Coram, UNSEARCHABLE RICHES, March 2005.

“Ah, I long intently for that day when even the devil himself shall put away his pitchfork, hang up his horns, and come humbly and brokenly to the Father's house! Does that startle you? How else could it be in that glad day when the Christ has finally RECONCILED ALL THINGS IN HEAVEN AND IN EARTH, including all the PRINCIPALITIES AND POWERS OF THE HEAVENLY SPHERE!”
RECONCILIATION IN THE HEAVENS – J. Preston Eby
Reconciliation in the Heavens
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Old 06-30-2019, 11:02 AM
 
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He is an angel that God created for the purpose of praise and worship, he took his powers and turn on God himself, like a child turn on his parent. He was then exiled from heaven and descending to earth along with other angels where he wreak havoc on people and used those who humans that will follow him and wreak havoc on others. Think of the world system, and who are the people more influence by him aka devil, satan,lucifer fallen angel. Jesus refer to him as the god of this world, because he comes and seduce willing people to do things that are against God Himself.

That is why God sent a part of him to this earth, (like a man and woman would have a child together) Mary carried his only begotten child (male) to save the people, its a way to help those who wanted to be save and denounce being a follower of satan. The devil will continue to steal as many souls, he can before his time is up, so as not be alone by himself in hell, and say to God see they are not perfect either. Look all the things that are tied to the devil by numbers aka system aka computers aka banking system, etc.

So you chose because we are all sinners and will stand in front of God to be judge for our actions on this earth as well as the devil and associates. SMILE
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Old 06-30-2019, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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He was then exiled from heaven and descending to earth along with other angels where he wreak havoc on people
There's a whole universe or two or three out there..............and Satan gets sent here. Darn the luck.
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Old 06-30-2019, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Default Satan

I believe that the reconciliation of Satan will be the greatest manifestation of God’s grace in action among the celestials.
https://www.godfire.net/eby/reconcilehvns.html
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Old 06-30-2019, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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You know that's something I've always wondered about.....why does Satan, knowing full well God's plan for him in the end, continue to wreak havoc and evil? Does he know something that we don't? Any thoughts?
The spirit inside a person knows that the person is being born again, and there are 42 months appointed for this no matter how long it actually takes, and that is 42 months in the Psssover season. Jesus walked as a rare man in completing his 42 months in 42 months, and that was his spring Passover walk, and when a person is born again, Jesus comes in at the middle of a 7 year week, and Jesus fulfills his final 3 and a half in a born again person. That 7 year covenant is the 7 year covenant we were told about in Daniel where Jesus came and died, he gave people the power of the Holy spirit to raise the dead, to heal the blind and the deaf, but nobody has that power anymore, and it was planned to come and go away as the rain comes and goes away.

Jesus fulfilled the prophesy to Eve that one of her sons would come and crush the head of the serpent, and Jesus did just that, but the prophesy continues,'' He that has a head wound is healed of his head wound,'' and so where Jesus came and crushed the authority of Satan and the power of the spirits of Satan, that head wound has been healed and we begin a 7 year covenant only to realize just who it is we have a covenant with in the middle of that 7 year covenant when the sacrifices are cut off, and the Christian sees and realizes that the spirit withjn isn't who he thought it was. They are the temple, and when they see tne abomination in the temple, it is that son oferdition within themselves.

When God gives the two witnesses power, those witnesses are inside a person as 1 John 5 explains, the water and the blood testify, they are the witnesses, and God has given both power, and what this means is that the spirit inside you has been given power, and your life changes dramatically.

Revelation is not an end of a world, it is written to the gentile who is dying to being a Gentile, he is being slowly resurrected as a new born creature because he was not born of the chosen.

Those 7 seals are 7 lenin wraps you wrap on a dead man, and those resurrection seals are unwrapping a dead man in a cocoon and as a cocoon produces,'' A brand new different ceature.''

When the first seal comes off, it comes off the body, and you hear the first voice of the trumpet in your soul, and the first bowl is poured out in your spirit

Revelation is showing you 3 views of 3 different perspectives of what is happening in body, soul, and in spirit, and that is why it depicts a thing happening from the view of heaven and then what is happening at the same event from the Earth, and from the temple.

Believe the first sentence and last thing said in Revelation.

''Everything written must shortly come to pass for the reader.''
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Old 07-01-2019, 12:07 AM
 
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There's a whole universe or two or three out there..............and Satan gets sent here. Darn the luck.
Not to mention, God casting Satan DOWN TO EARTH....AMONG US...was giving Satan exactly what he wanted all along! Even the bible refers to him as 'the ruler of this world', so its no wonder why he is worshiped so greatly here!
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Old 07-01-2019, 09:48 AM
 
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Not to mention, God casting Satan DOWN TO EARTH....AMONG US...was giving Satan exactly what he wanted all along! Even the bible refers to him as 'the ruler of this world', so its no wonder why he is worshiped so greatly here!
He was never cast down to earth...
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Old 07-01-2019, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Not to mention, God casting Satan DOWN TO EARTH....AMONG US...was giving Satan exactly what he wanted all along! Even the bible refers to him as 'the ruler of this world', so its no wonder why he is worshiped so greatly here!
Your father, my father, he is a part of what we are. Jesus didn't call those disciples sons of Satan because Satan suddenly indwelled them, he called the sons of their father because when we act in a way of pride and unforgiveness, we speak the words of our father, and act upon his desires, the evil inclination within us.
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Old 07-01-2019, 01:30 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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Your father, my father, he is a part of what we are. Jesus didn't call those disciples sons of Satan because Satan suddenly indwelled them, he called the sons of their father because when we act in a way of pride and unforgiveness, we speak the words of our father, and act upon his desires, the evil inclination within us.
Hey, I can agree with you!
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