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Old 09-23-2019, 11:23 PM
 
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it is very comparable to the spiritual selfish evil at the heart of murder .
Take for instance the bitter divorce of two parents in which the court has decided that only one of those parents
will have custody of the children .
The other deeply embittered parent decides that their life is ruined and they will kill themselves , but rather than just carry that out they determine that the other parent will never enjoy the lives of the growing children because they are going to kill the children and then kill themselves .
I know of a case where this actually happened .
They purposely do not kill the other spouse , just the children , because
they want the other spouse to live a life of loss and sorrow.
Satan knows his fate is sealed , but the one thing he does have at the moment is time .
Time to rob the father of as many of his children as he possibly can .
This is why jesus called him a " murderer from the beginning "
but as is so often the case when looking into the scriptures your interesting question begs another related question .
Do you know what that is ?
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Old 10-07-2019, 10:20 AM
 
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No, the angels were created to be different from mankind, angels do not need to have faith...they KNOW, in the same way, that Satan KNOWS he does not stand a chance of overthrowing Gods position an taking it for himself (that would be human type mistake, angels are not capable of making those kinds of mistakes).
- Satan does not have faith in God, but in himself.
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Old 10-09-2019, 08:57 AM
 
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It is very comparable to the spiritual selfish evil at the heart of murder .
Take for instance the bitter divorce of two parents in which the court has decided that only one of those parents
will have custody of the children .
The other deeply embittered parent decides that their life is ruined and they will kill themselves , but rather than just carry that out they determine that the other parent will never enjoy the lives of the growing children because they are going to kill the children and then kill themselves .
I know of a case where this actually happened .
They purposely do not kill the other spouse , just the children , because
they want the other spouse to live a life of loss and sorrow.
Satan knows his fate is sealed , but the one thing he does have at the moment is time .
Time to rob the Father of as many of His children as he possibly can .
This is why Jesus called him a " murderer from the beginning "
But as is so often the case when looking into the scriptures your interesting question begs another related question .
Do you know what that is ?
Yep you are right, but you forgot to mention one key point...God (the father), is THE ONE who 'enabled' Satan to do this in the first place!!


God COULD have banished satan to some outer realm any time he liked, where satan would have NO contact or influence on mankind...(humans would still have free will if he did this too)...


But where does God cast satan instead? DOWN AMONG US!!! Imo, this proves satan has a specific purpose and is doing exactly what he was created for, he is not 'rebelling' in the slightest way.
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Old 10-09-2019, 05:09 PM
 
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Because it's his job, appointed for a season.....blessings....
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Old 10-09-2019, 08:35 PM
 
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Default If Satan Knows His Fate Then Why Does He Continue?

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Because it's his job, appointed for a season.....blessings....
You mean like prearranged or decided on beforehand?
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Old 10-10-2019, 12:09 AM
 
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You mean like prearranged or decided on beforehand?

What DIDN'T He prearrange, would be a better question.....
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Old 10-10-2019, 12:19 AM
 
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What DIDN'T He prearrange, would be a better question.....
...that depends on what you believe.
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Old 10-10-2019, 11:47 AM
 
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He's playing the more exciting game with the biggest number of players. Guess he just doesn't see the losing for the winning.
You made me laugh, but this sounds quite plausible. Certainly numbers are on his side, and "statistics" can be very convincing, eh?
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Old 10-12-2019, 02:09 AM
 
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Satan, the devil, doesn't know he is the devil. Nor do his followers know they follow him.

This is an interesting thought, what do others think about it?


Does Satan know his ultimate fate? The Bible nowhere says that Satan can foretell the future or how great his knowledge is, he didn't knew that Christ's death and ressurection was his defeat.
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Old 10-12-2019, 03:45 AM
 
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This is an interesting thought, what do others think about it?


Does Satan know his ultimate fate? The Bible nowhere says that Satan can foretell the future or how great his knowledge is, he didn't knew that Christ's death and ressurection was his defeat.
You mean, nowhere in the New Testament...
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