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Old 06-05-2011, 07:50 AM
 
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God loves unconditionally but it does not mean he does not hate... He hates sin and that includes the sin in men.
God hates some sinners too [Ps 5:5], Easu was a sinner, Rom 9:13, God hated Easu before he had a chance to do good or evil Rom 9:11

11(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth )

And many today have been born into this world, as Easu, already hated by God, and are being fitted for destruction because of their sins.

Whereas the opposite is True of the elect, their sins bring them God's mercy.
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Old 06-05-2011, 08:18 AM
 
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God hates some sinners too [Ps 5:5], Easu was a sinner, Rom 9:13, God hated Easu before he had a chance to do good or evil Rom 9:11

11(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth )

And many today have been born into this world, as Easu, already hated by God, and are being fitted for destruction because of their sins.

Whereas the opposite is True of the elect, their sins bring them God's mercy.
I haven't been following this thread, so forgive me if this has already been asked and answered. If it's true that God hates people and they have no chance of him ever loving them, why would you want to tell them that? What good purpose could that possibly serve? Is it that you're one of the loved ones and you want to boast about that? Or do you think it's important that the hated ones know they're hated so they can suffer as much as possible in this life? Or is it that you're afraid that you are one of the hated and you want other people to feel the same despair that you must feel (misery loves company)?

I'm just concerned for you (and the people around you) because the kind of mindset that would cause someone to go around telling people that God hates them seem horribly unhealthy and unstable. Seriously (and I'm not saying this in a nasty or condescending way ... I know that my own beliefs about God have, in the past, caused me real mental anguish) have you considered speaking to someone in the mental health field about this compulsion you seem to have? It could possibly give you some valuable insights and some peace of mind.
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Old 06-05-2011, 09:19 AM
 
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I could but I am not, its not about me.
Because you can't

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It's about God not Loving all mankind without exception and that He hates some, For scripture makes it clear. Rom 9:13 13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
God also hated his beloved. Therefore "hated" does not mean not loved. It means God appearing as an enemy, causing them to reap what they have sown.

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5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Yes, but you don't believe it. Workers = those who do. Look it up. Workers of iniquity means those who do iniquity.

Psalms 119:2 Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart. 3 They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.

Do = work. Look it up.
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Old 06-05-2011, 09:21 AM
 
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because the kind of mindset that would cause someone to go around telling people that God hates them
I dont go around telling people that, that is a false assumption on your part of me. Please stick to what I have stated in the posts I have provided.
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Old 06-05-2011, 09:22 AM
 
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Because you can't

Ok , if thats what you believe, then let it go, because I am not changing.

God does not Love everyone without exception, Ps 5:5

5The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

Rom 9:13

13As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
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Old 06-05-2011, 09:25 AM
 
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I dont go around telling people that, that is a false assumption on your part of me. Please stick to what I have stated in the posts I have provided.

How is what you are saying NOT telling people that?
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Old 06-05-2011, 09:28 AM
 
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How is what you are saying NOT telling people that?

Show me in any post I have posted, where I said I tell people that ? If you cannot show where I posted that, then you are accusing me falsely of something I never stated I tell people. Its on you to prove your accusation. Not me to disprove a comment I never made.
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Old 06-05-2011, 09:32 AM
 
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Show me in any post I have posted, where I said I tell people that ? If you cannot show where I posted that, then you are accusing me falsely of something I never stated I tell people. Its on you to prove your accusation. Not me to disprove a comment I never made.
Have you not said repeatedly that God hates people?
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Old 06-05-2011, 09:55 AM
 
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Have you not said repeatedly that God hates people?
Are you going to show where I stated that I tell people that God hates them ? Or are you going to continue to falsely accuse me ? If this keeps up, I will report you for false accusing and slander. Now provide me the post. And yes God hates people, I provided the scripture for that comment. Rom 9:13 and Ps 5:5.
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Old 06-05-2011, 10:06 AM
 
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Are you going to show where I stated that I tell people that God hates them ? Or are you going to continue to falsely accuse me ? If this keeps up, I will report you for false accusing and slander. Now provide me the post. And yes God hates people, I provided the scripture for that comment. Rom 9:13 and Ps 5:5.
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