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He is saying it to both!! Reconiliation is an accomplished fact (2 Cor 5:18) and a continuing process (your v 19). This is why you can't cherry pick one verse, but must study passages in completion and in context.
Reconciliation is already accomplished because of Christ dying on the cross to cover our sins, but it still must be personally given. This passage was written to give hope to those who already are in Christ (your sins are forgiven! You are in Christ as a believer!) and as a ministry to offer the Gospel to unbelievers (You are a sinner but God wants to be reconciled with you through Christ his Son who died for your sins).
Being reconciled means accepting what God has achieved through Christ.
You make no sense whatsoever and you know it,how can you say to the reconciled be YE reconciled. Are you listening to what you are saying, how can we ever expect the world to take what we are saying seriously when we come out with this kind of nonsense ?
Like I said yo will not agree to what it actually says, because all that you thought was the good news, was built on sinking sand, I know it's a hard one to swallow, but be rest assured well worth swallowing , so you too can walk in the path of peace that the knowledge of salvation gives to us through our sins BEING forgiven.
Let me ask you Finn. Do you proclaim to the world that God is not imputing (present tense, right now) their sins to them?
Do you tell them this Finn? Be honest. And do you believe this?
I tell everyone they are forgiven whether believe me or not,or whether they think I am mad , or whether they think I am a heretic(usually the response of the unforgiving Fundy),I live in continuous forgiveness,for myself and the world, because it is the Spirit of Christ in me "Father forgive them for they know not what they do".
Exactly... it doesn't. It's wishful thinking at best to think when Jesus speakes of heaven, those who are going to it and it's joys being forever, for ever and ever, eternal and then in the same sentence compared those who are not believers to say that then for them everything is temporary.
I tell everyone they are forgiven whether believe me or not,or whether they think I am mad , or whether they think I am a heretic(usually the response of the unforgiving Fundy),I live in continuous forgiveness,for myself and the world, because it is the Spirit of Christ in me "Father forgive them for they know not what they do".
Amazingly, most of this church age no longer knows what the Gospel is and what we are to proclaim to the world. It's in total apostasy, or denial. The testimonies of Finn on this thread and Mike555 on other threads are excellent examples of it's denial.
There you go Mike555, I've used your screen name again here...
What message are we ambassadors of ? The one that Paul said which is God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself, not holding the sin of the people against them ? Which is obviously for those who have yet to know reconciliation .
It is well worth noting too, that Paul did not say go and tell them you can be forgiven,he said go and tell them they are forgiven, that he is not holding their sin against them, Be YE reconciled.
Little did I know today that I would stir the nest of a brood of vipers so much, with such good news.
Amazingly, most of this church age no longer knows what the Gospel is and what we are to proclaim to the world. It's in total apostasy, or denial. The testimonies of Finn on this thread and Mike555 on other threads are excellent examples of it's denial.
There you go Mike555, I've used your screen name again here...
Bringing up people who are not on the thread is gossip. It shows a lack of class and character. Leave me out of the conversation.
Amazingly, most of this church age no longer knows what the Gospel is and what we are to proclaim to the world. It's in total apostasy, or denial. The testimonies of Finn on this thread and Mike555 on other threads are excellent examples of it's denial.
There you go Mike555, I've used your screen name again here...
What message are we ambassadors of ? The one that Paul said which is God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself, not holding the sin of the people against them ? Which is obviously for those who have yet to know reconciliation .
It is well worth noting too, that Paul did not say go and tell them you can be forgiven,he said go and tell them they are forgiven, that he is not holding their sin against them, YE reconciled.
Little did I know today that I would stir the nest of a brood of vipers so much, with such good news.
My goodness. For the last and final time, this is the MINISTRY of reconciliation:
the ministry of reconciliation: 19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them
Then, Paul makes a point to say BE reconciled. Be is an action verb indicating man must take action to accept the OFFER of reconciliation. Reconciliation isnt complete without man's acceptance.
V 20 We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God.
Context please, do we want reconciliation or do we want to reject reconciliation, context makes it a choice.
God has already accomplished reconciling us, as well as the world to himself. Sins are not being imputed to anyone. That is the Good News. That is the Gospel. That is what Jesus accomplished for us on the cross. That Good News (ie: the Gospel) is what we are to believe in, through faith. Faith reveals and makes known to us this Good News, that work that Jesus did for us.
And ff course, I want everyone, the entire world to know and believe this truth. I want everyone to worship Jesus and give Him the glory alone for what He accomplished.
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