If you could ask God one question... (Bible, Kingdom, Matthew)

[plain and simple]

Originally Posted by manderly6

I actually agree with what you just said. Or at least the spirit of what you just said. It was premise of my post.

Then I'm at fault for misreading and misunderstanding your post. Please forgive me. In this instance, I'm overjoyed to be the one in the wrong! \o/

[MysticPhD]

Originally Posted by plain and simple

Unless, and until, it's backed up with scripture, taken in context and rightly divided.

Those who think it's arrogant that someone would dare speak for God must then admit that they themselves also do not and cannot because they have no idea what God thinks or would want to say. Thus rendering their opinions and beliefs as their own only, and not Gods, since they don't know God's thoughts on the matter. After all, no one knows what God is thinking or believes, right?

Wrong we have the "mind of Christ" and His Holy Spirit (Comforter) to guide us to the truth God has "written in our heart."

It's just impossible! This very argument you use against "fundamentalists" must, then, in your own line of logic, double back and apply even more-so to you and give less credibility to your beliefs because they are indirectly admitted as your own and not God's.
Do you really think God would leave Himself such a total mystery and let His beloved creation work in vain to try to figure out what He wants and thinks, risking their eternities to do so?

Of course not. Don't you believe Jesus. Christ abides with us. He is the Living Word of God. He did not leave us alone. We have His Holy Spirit (Comforter) within our consciousness.

[plain and simple]

Originally Posted by MysticPhD

Wrong we have the "mind of Christ" and His Holy Spirit (Comforter) to guide us to the truth God has "written in our heart."Of course not. Don't you believe Jesus. Christ abides with us. He is the Living Word of God. He did not leave us alone. We have His Holy Spirit (Comforter) within our consciousness.

What you said is true, but not complete. (And it ONLY applies to true believers who accept the scriptures as God's word and the truth. It isn't true for unbelievers and those who are NOT truly born again.) With that said, here's what I noticed about your post:

Everything you said in your comments to my post completely, 100% negate the scriptures as necessary or that they are God's word to us at all. (And everything I said is IN the scriptures -- fully referenced.) How you phrased your comments, completely leaving out the importance of the scriptures, makes it appear that you don't believe that the Bible is God's word at all. That, because we have the mind of Christ and the Holy Spirit to guide us, we have no need for the scriptures at all. In this case each person would end up with their own interpretation of what the Holy Spirit is saying to them. "What makes YOUR mind of Christ right and MINE wrong?" That's how these discussions would be going if that were the case. Then everyone who claimed to be a Christian would, by default, be speaking for God. Without the scriptures as a foundation, then who would ever know which person is really hearing from God. There would be NO way to know.

Person #1: "Well, I have the mind of Christ and this is what the Holy Spirit taught me."
Person #2: "You're lying because I have the mind of Christ and that's NOT what the Holy Spirit told ME!"
Person #3: "You're BOTH wrong because I have the mind of Christ and the Holy Spirit told me something else!"

Where would it end? Without the scriptures are the basis for truth and discerning the teachings of others we couldn't know which spirit is guiding them. Demonic spirits lead people, too. And the devil disguises himself as an angel of light, twisting kernels of truth.

I'll give you an opportunity to rephrase your post. If you can't/don't, then I am forced to assume that you negate the scriptures as God's word and the truth.

ETA: Going to bed for the night. Sleep well everyone!

[nateswift]

Originally Posted by plain and simple

Where would it end?

30 some thousand denominations all claiming to have the correct interpretation of the scrip.... uh, I mean the Spirit?

[Jerwade]

Originally Posted by plain and simple

Person #1: "Well, I have the mind of Christ and this is what the Holy Spirit taught me."
Person #2: "You're lying because I have the mind of Christ and that's NOT what the Holy Spirit told ME!"
Person #3: "You're BOTH wrong because I have the mind of Christ and the Holy Spirit told me something else!"

Where would it end?

Originally Posted by nateswift

30 some thousand denominations all claiming to have the correct interpretation of the scrip.... uh, I mean the Spirit?

You can pick your friends.
You can pick your seat.

But you can't pick your friends seat.

[Griffis]

I'd ask:

"What are you doing in the bathroom all the time? Why don't you get out of there and give someone else a chance?"

[jerseygal4u]

Originally Posted by Joint heir with jesus

care to elaborate, either publically or privately? Don't know how good my advice is but I've been told I'm a good listener.

What I'm trying to say is "Why are some people born to suffer more than others?"
Gay people for instance:
Its wrong for a man to lie with a man,yet they were born that way?
I know God doesn't like homosexuality. So that means that person would have to struggle more with fornication than the heterosexuals would,since they can't get married. They would have to be single for the rest of their life.


I would also ask God:


What IS the right way to serve you?
There are so many branches of Christianity....which one is the right way?

[embe]

God Transliterates to Gad, Gawd, Gud,

Gad is in the old testament. he was named 'Gad' because "he is of wealth".

If you look in a concordance bible , you may find the transliterations define similar or the same.

[purehuman]

Originally Posted by manderly6

I disagree. I think some posters think they absolutely know the answers to some of these questions and think they know exactly what god would say.

Maybe so, but they're only fooling themselves if they do...it's interesting though, don't you think?

[MysticPhD]

Originally Posted by plain and simple

What you said is true, but not complete. (And it ONLY applies to true believers who accept the scriptures as God's word and the truth. It isn't true for unbelievers and those who are NOT truly born again.) With that said, here's what I noticed about your post:

You do not get to decide who is a true believer or a true Christian or anything else . . . God does.

Everything you said in your comments to my post completely, 100% negate the scriptures as necessary or that they are God's word to us at all. (And everything I said is IN the scriptures -- fully referenced.)

I have over 16,000+ posts wherein I have referenced the scriptures for ALL my views. Expecting me to repeat them for those who are not familiar with the relevant ones being addressed is unreasonable.

1 Corinthians 2:13-16 (King James Version)

13Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15But He that is spiritual (Christ) judgeth all things, yet He himself is judged of no man.
16For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.

Hebrews 8:10-11 King James Version (KJV)

10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

1 John 2:27 (King James Version)

27But the anointing which ye have received of Him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in Him.

2 Corinthians 3:14-17

But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16Nevertheless when it (Heart) shall turn to the Lord (Christ), the vail shall be taken away.
17Now the Lord is that Spirit: (Holy Spirit) and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

2 Corinthians 3: 2-6 (King James Version)

2Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
3Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
4And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:
5Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
6Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

How you phrased your comments, completely leaving out the importance of the scriptures, makes it appear that you don't believe that the Bible is God's word at all.

Christ is the Living Word of God . . . NOT the Bible and He abides with us. You apparently don't believe that and rely on dead words "written in ink" which are merely USEFUL for instruction in righteousness and telling us of Christ.

That, because we have the mind of Christ and the Holy Spirit to guide us, we have no need for the scriptures at all.

I have never said we have no use for scriptures. They are NOT the word of God . . . they are USEFUL inspirations from God for our instruction. Using the "mind of Christ" requires that you KNOW what Christ was like as HE represented Himself in His life, teachings and death . . . NOT what our ignorant ancient ancestors thought of Jehovah or YHWH!!!

In this case each person would end up with their own interpretation of what the Holy Spirit is saying to them.

NOT if they are using WWJT as their reference and not their own beliefs and "precepts and doctrines of men."

"What makes YOUR mind of Christ right and MINE wrong?" That's how these discussions would be going if that were the case. Then everyone who claimed to be a Christian would, by default, be speaking for God. Without the scriptures as a foundation, then who would ever know which person is really hearing from God. There would be NO way to know.

Wrong . . . Christ is the way to know. There is only ONE "mind of Christ" and He was completely unambiguous in presenting Himself to us and revealing the true nature of our Father as love. It is the "precepts and doctrines of men" that have corrupted your understanding of the "mind of Christ" with the ignorance of our ancestors' beliefs about Jehovah(YHWH).

Where would it end? Without the scriptures are the basis for truth and discerning the teachings of others we couldn't know which spirit is guiding them. Demonic spirits lead people, too. And the devil disguises himself as an angel of light, twisting kernels of truth.

There is nothing that is compatible with the "mind of Christ" that could ever be demonic . . . but plenty of things our ignorant ancestors believed about Jehovah(YHWH) are demonic.

I'll give you an opportunity to rephrase your post. If you can't/don't, then I am forced to assume that you negate the scriptures as God's word and the truth.

The scriptures are NOT God's word . . . they are God's inspirations that are USEFUL (profitable) for our instruction in righteousness and to tell us about Christ and how to validate Him.