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Old 12-25-2016, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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So, per the link this only applies to those pastors who are participating in a state program.

And?

What's the problem?

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The state of Kentucky has begun imposing a religious test on volunteer pastor counselors in its youth division, insisting that they refrain from calling homosexuality “sinful” and dismissing those who cannot bend their religious faith to accommodate the state requirements.
State forbids pastors calling homosexuality ‘sinful’

1) The predictably dishonest thread-title implies that all pastors in Kentucky are banned from ever saying that homosexuality is sinful. This is false. Pastors in Kentucky are free to spew whatever warms their hateful hearts to their congregations. They're free to berate random gay people they meet on the street with vile commentary. But, as noted, this restriction only applies to duties on a job.

2) Various government employments come with all sorts of restrictions. Members of the military are not allowed to publicly criticize their chain of command, from their commanding officer to the Secretary of Defense to the President. And it's been this way for many decades.

3) Postal carriers are prohibited by the Hatch Act from various activities, including wearing political buttons on the job. Yet you don't hear them hysterically wailing that their free speech is being violated. Hell, they're even prohibited from some off-duty acts, like hosting political fundraisers in their homes.

4) Public school teachers face a host of limitations on their speech and activities, both on the job and off.

The OP is simply continuing his crusade to convince people that Christians are oppressed which is sheer and utter nonsense.
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Old 12-25-2016, 02:02 PM
 
Location: New England
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No. A pastor, especially, is to call people to repentance--not encourage them in their sin. That includes homosexuality, as well as other sins, like adultery, drunkenness, etc. I'm sure this idea will have people howling.
No, you are to encourage them in the way of righteousness. Why the hell would you tell church goers not to do this that or the other? .
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Old 12-25-2016, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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It's only a matter of time until they tell the churches the same.

State forbids pastors calling homosexuality ‘sinful’
Britain has already made it illegal, you say those things in the street and off to jail you go. The mayor of Houston demanded churches to send them a draft of their sermons so they could be edited or banned from speaking. They would really like to put regulations on what preachers preach.
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Old 12-25-2016, 02:26 PM
 
Location: City-Data Forum
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Typical subterfuge from the evil ones.

They will do anything possible to keep Christ from being taught to the young ones that need him most. So that they can keep them confused and defenseless.
This is expected sore news for the people that have taken the mark of the beast.
The evil ones are after the young ones because they are easy prey for their type of emotion-based indoctrination, you need them naive for your evil blood-based cults that follow after Jewish primordial beasts with heads made of dark clouds.

A State has to protect children from verbal abuse and degradation of their sexual feelings. LGBT kids commit a lot more suicides because of this bashing of their birth nature that those who can't accept death or lack of r-selected mammalian replication inflict upon them.
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Old 12-25-2016, 02:28 PM
 
Location: City-Data Forum
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Spiritual ' house cleaning ' will start or begin with the ' House of God ' - 1st Peter 4:17
So, when the political turns on religion it will start with ' Christendom ' ( so-called Christian - Matthew 7:21-23 )

Also, it's Not being homosexual that is the sin, but the immoral practice of fornication ( porneia ) that is the sin.
Jesus says that if you even think about it you have committed porneia with your mind. But we should probably ignore ourselves and focus on how horrid the gay thoughts of these children are, and how completely their own fault they are (this way we don't have to work on any of our shortcomings first, right Vizio?).


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Oh gosh, I didn't notice this was the Christian sub-forum... it's going to be pretty ugly here for me here pretty soon, good bye, best of luck to all of you.
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Old 12-25-2016, 02:32 PM
 
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So, per the link this only applies to those pastors who are participating in a state program.

And?

What's the problem?


State forbids pastors calling homosexuality ‘sinful’

1) The predictably dishonest thread-title implies that all pastors in Kentucky are banned from ever saying that homosexuality is sinful. This is false. Pastors in Kentucky are free to spew whatever warms their hateful hearts to their congregations. They're free to berate random gay people they meet on the street with vile commentary. But, as noted, this restriction only applies to duties on a job.

2) Various government employments come with all sorts of restrictions. Members of the military are not allowed to publicly criticize their chain of command, from their commanding officer to the Secretary of Defense to the President. And it's been this way for many decades.

3) Postal carriers are prohibited by the Hatch Act from various activities, including wearing political buttons on the job. Yet you don't hear them hysterically wailing that their free speech is being violated. Hell, they're even prohibited from some off-duty acts, like hosting political fundraisers in their homes.

4) Public school teachers face a host of limitations on their speech and activities, both on the job and off.

The OP is simply continuing his crusade to convince people that Christians are oppressed which is sheer and utter nonsense.
I thought denial of the truth was utter nonsense.
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Old 12-25-2016, 02:35 PM
 
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Again, a misnomer because Eve wasn't the mother of all living. G-d framed the world with wisdom. He wasn't honoring Father and Mother. Peace
Huh????

Where did that come from?
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Old 12-25-2016, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Huh????

Where did that come from?
...from her mind, as always.
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Old 12-25-2016, 05:05 PM
 
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Huh????
Where did that come from?
From the heart of racism.
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Old 12-25-2016, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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No. A pastor, especially, is to call people to repentance--not encourage them in their sin. That includes homosexuality, as well as other sins, like adultery, drunkenness, etc. I'm sure this idea will have people howling.
Correct!
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