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You are mixing scripture up. The ones made righteous by the obedience of one Per Rom 5:19 are loved of God Rom 5:8
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
But the workers of iniquity, God hated them Ps 5:5
5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
So two different groups of sinners are represented here. The ones God loved while sinners, they are vessels of mercy Rom 9, however the sinners God hated are the vessels of wrath Rom 9 which He is fitting for destruction.
You best learn to rightly divide the word of truth my friend.
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Originally Posted by justbyfaith
Or, it may be that God has a love-hate relationship with sinners.
Because He is love, he loves the sinner and died for him.
Because he hates sin, he hates the sinner who will not be separated from his sin.
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Originally Posted by Brightfame52
God isnt doubleminded friend. He loves some sinners while in their sinfulness Rom 5:8
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
But another group of sinners its written Ps 5:5
5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Obviously not the same sinners !
Apparently, the both of you like to talk past each other. Yet, you are not saying anything different, just in a different way. This happens when you believe your objective is to teach. But neither of you are teachers with your limited comprehension. LMAO
God isnt doubleminded friend. He loves some sinners while in their sinfulness Rom 5:8
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
But another group of sinners its written Ps 5:5
5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Obviously not the same sinners !
If it is obvious to you, perhaps you can explain the difference between a mere sinner and a worker of iniquity????
Apparently, the both of you like to talk past each other. Yet, you are not saying anything different, just in a different way. This happens when you believe your objective is to teach. But neither of you are teachers with your limited comprehension. LMAO
Charlie and JBF just read and memorize the words of the Bible and do not bother to determine if any of them ARE scripture by testing the spirit of what is claimed against the Holy Spirit of God. They pretend they do but they ignore and refuse to use the revelation of God's Holy Spirit of agape love and forgiveness by Jesus Christ on the Cross as the only infallible standard of truth about who God IS.
Those who penned the holy scriptures were tested by the early church and found to be true apostles (Revelation 2:2).
If the tree is good, the fruit is also good (Matthew 7:15-20).
Those who penned the holy scriptures were tested by the early church and found to be true apostles (Revelation 2:2).
If the tree is good, the fruit is also good (Matthew 7:15-20).
You are incapable of thought or reason, just rote regurgitation of your memorized verses and platitudes.
Charlie and JBF just read and memorize the words of the Bible and do not bother to determine if any of them ARE scripture by testing the spirit of what is claimed against the Holy Spirit of God. They pretend they do but they ignore and refuse to use the revelation of God's Holy Spirit of agape love and forgiveness by Jesus Christ on the Cross as the only infallible standard of truth about who God IS.
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Originally Posted by justbyfaith
I think that what you don't like about it is that my "memorized verses and platitudes" actually refute your statements.
That is why I keep responding to your platitudes with the same responses.
Your responses are not refuting what I say. They are relying on MEN who claim what you are reading was inspired by the Holy spirit and correctly interpreted. You refuse to check whether or not that is TRUE!!!
Your responses are not refuting what I say. They are relying on MEN who claim what you are reading was inspired by the Holy spirit and correctly interpreted. You refuse to check whether or not that is TRUE!!!
The men who penned the holy scriptures were tested by the early church and found to be true (Revelation 2:2).
If the tree is good, then the fruit (the holy scriptures that were penned) is also good (Matthew 7:15-20).
If it is obvious to you, perhaps you can explain the difference between a mere sinner and a worker of iniquity????
Before I do that, do you see the obvious difference God makes in these two groups of sinners when it comes to His Love ?
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