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Old 09-07-2021, 08:15 AM
 
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Some folk God hates Ps 5:5


5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

Some were created for His wrath and destruction Rom 9:21-22

21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

That word fitted is in the passive voice, God is fitting them for destruction. You think God loves that person ??
yes he loves them and it is because he loves them he fitted them for destruction. The old man will is being destroyed as Christ is being formed in them.

thus they will be made as they ought to be.
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Old 09-07-2021, 08:16 AM
 
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YES!

Fitted = katartizō =

To repair.

To mend what has been broken or rent.

To put in order, arrange & adjust.

Make one what he aught to be.

To prepare fit & frame for one's self.

"God attaches no strings to His love. None. His love for us does not depend on our loveliness. It goes one way. As far as our sin may extend, the grace of our Father extends further." ~Tullian Tchividjian
amen
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Old 09-07-2021, 12:35 PM
 
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JBF and his trainee think the essence of our Father is wrath; not love, but wrath.

They are part of low theologies.

"In low theologies hell is invariably the deepest truth and the love of God is not so deep. ~George MacDonald
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Old 09-07-2021, 01:14 PM
 
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YES!

Fitted = katartizō =

To repair.

To mend what has been broken or rent.

To put in order, arrange & adjust.

Make one what he aught to be.

To prepare fit & frame for one's self.

"God attaches no strings to His love. None. His love for us does not depend on our loveliness. It goes one way. As far as our sin may extend, the grace of our Father extends further." ~Tullian Tchividjian
Yes they are being fitted for destruction, by God !
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Old 09-07-2021, 01:26 PM
 
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Eze 13:21, Your kerchiefs also will I tear, and deliver my people out of your hand, and they shall be no more in your hand to be hunted; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
Eze 13:22, Because with lies ye have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way, by promising him life:
Eze 13:23, Therefore ye shall see no more vanity, nor divine divinations: for I will deliver my people out of your hand: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
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Old 09-07-2021, 01:56 PM
 
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Yes they are being fitted for destruction, by God !
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Eze 13:21, Your kerchiefs also will I tear, and deliver my people out of your hand, and they shall be no more in your hand to be hunted; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
Eze 13:22, Because with lies ye have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way, by promising him life:
Eze 13:23, Therefore ye shall see no more vanity, nor divine divinations: for I will deliver my people out of your hand: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
He delivered or called me, out of Christiamism; and the erroneous beliefs of extreme fundamentalists.
For that, I am grateful!!! As, it is a never-ending battle of condemnation and self-delusions.
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Old 09-07-2021, 02:57 PM
 
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He delivered or called me, out of Christiamism; and the erroneous beliefs of extreme fundamentalists.
For that, I am grateful!!! As, it is a never-ending battle of condemnation and self-delusions.

I very much admire those of you who have escaped. I did not have to overcome any such indoctrination but I can see how difficult it is to escape from it. But I am just as grateful to God for calling me out of atheism which is as much a self-delusion and self-congratulation of one's intelligence not to believe that silly stuff about God! It was indeed a shock to be so soundly shown to be wrong. It has been as grueling and long a road for me to be where I am today but I am definitely grateful for it.
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Old 09-07-2021, 04:19 PM
 
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He delivered or called me, out of Christiamism; and the erroneous beliefs of extreme fundamentalists.
For that, I am grateful!!! As, it is a never-ending battle of condemnation and self-delusions.
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I very much admire those of you who have escaped. I did not have to overcome any such indoctrination but I can see how difficult it is to escape from it. But I am just as grateful to God for calling me out of atheism which is as much a self-delusion and self-congratulation of one's intelligence not to believe that silly stuff about God! It was indeed a shock to be so soundly shown to be wrong. It has been as grueling and long a road for me to be where I am today but I am definitely grateful for it.
I find no condemnation concerning my own life in the Christian faith.

I think that perhaps you have misunderstood the message of the Bible or else you have never surrendered your life to the Lordship of Jesus Christ and therefore the Christian faith speaks condemnation to your soul.

But the Holy Ghost, to this day, convicts the world of sin and of righteousness and of judgment.

And, thinking that you have escaped the Christian faith is not going to change that in your life.
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Old 09-07-2021, 04:24 PM
 
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He delivered or called me, out of Christiamism; and the erroneous beliefs of extreme fundamentalists.
For that, I am grateful!!! As, it is a never-ending battle of condemnation and self-delusions.
So where does that leave you with the Cross of Christ?
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Old 09-07-2021, 05:44 PM
 
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Yes they are being fitted for destruction, by God !
God loves every last sinner coming out of the loins of Adam 1. Your original post suggested that is not correct.

"That word fitted is in the passive voice, God is fitting them for destruction. You think God loves that person ??"

You can bet your bottom dollar He does & will accomplish His purpose in total scope.

Fitted = katartizō =

To repair.

To mend what has been broken or rent.

To put in order, arrange & adjust.

Make one what he aught to be.

To prepare fit & frame for one's self.
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