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Old 09-22-2021, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Plymouth, England
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Can anyone clarify something for me please?-

When the resurrected dead arrive at the gates of heaven and Peter asks "Are you Christians?" will he let any in who say "No"?
According to Jesus, heaven is an exclusive 'Christians only' gated community, so wouldn't letting non-christians in be a case of "oops there goes the neighbourhood"?
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Old 09-22-2021, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Can anyone clarify something for me please?-

When the resurrected dead arrive at the gates of heaven and Peter asks "Are you Christians?" will he let any in who say "No"?
According to Jesus, heaven is an exclusive 'Christians only' gated community, so wouldn't letting non-christians in be a case of "oops there goes the neighbourhood"?
Jesus is always talking of the higher kingdom that is very few, I sure dont have Hope's to gain entrance, but there are 2 other lower kingdoms and all are saved.
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Old 09-22-2021, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Plymouth, England
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Jesus is always talking of the higher kingdom that is very few, I sure dont have Hope's to gain entrance, but there are 2 other lower kingdoms and all are saved.

In which verse does Jesus speak of 3 kingdoms?
Anyway, if anybody is a Christian they'll be saved no matter where they are..
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Old 09-22-2021, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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In which verse does Jesus speak of 3 kingdoms?
Anyway, if anybody is a Christian they'll be saved no matter where they are..
Jesus speaks of the highest and the least, but there is also an in between.

The tabernacle was designed to show what those 3 section are.

There is the broad court, then an inner tent, and then a an enclosed room inside a tent. 3 progressive stages.


The broad outer court was known as outer darkness, this is where Jesus ends Most Christian's.by their own choosing out of ignorance.

Those Christian's that taught Jesus name in the streets doing miracles in Jesus name, he sends them to outer darkness, and like I said, this is an ancient term ever since Moses. Everyone knows what outer darkness is.
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Old 09-22-2021, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Plymouth, England
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Jesus speaks of the highest and the least, but there is also an in between.
The tabernacle was designed to show what those 3 section are.
There is the broad court, then an inner tent, and then a an enclosed room inside a tent. 3 progressive stages.

The broad outer court was known as outer darkness, this is where Jesus ends Most Christian's.by their own choosing out of ignorance.
Those Christian's that taught Jesus name in the streets doing miracles in Jesus name, he sends them to outer darkness, and like I said, this is an ancient term ever since Moses. Everyone knows what outer darkness is.

Sorry, I'm not sure I follow; if anybody is a genuine true Christian they go to heaven don't they?
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Old 09-22-2021, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Sorry, I'm not sure I follow; if anybody is a genuine true Christian they go to heaven don't they?
Your view of heaven is wrong, change your perspective, heaven is an outcome of 3 positions.


You are looking for a place people go, a box.


Heaven doesnt work like that, it's not a box, it's a freaking job.


When you die, you are going to have a job whether it's of the majority or the middle class, or what kings are made for.


You know what kings are made for?


Dying.

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Old 09-22-2021, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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People think that God created an earth where humans evolved from the sea to then be evolved through animals, and as animals implanted with a spiritual seed that becomes something more than an animal.



That after the billions of years it took to place spirit in animals that somehow God was going to rid himself of what HE HAD Waited 16 billion years to create



I mean, do you know how freaking rare a living soul is and just how long it took to create a living soul?


Think of God as a farmer, and after billions of years to get to a autonomous soul MUCH MORE RARE THAN ANYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE, DO YOU THINK GOD HAS NO JOB FOR YOU?

CONSIDER HOW RARE YOU ARE, AND WHAT IS YOUR WORTH?




There is only one high prized Gem, only one rare ruby.




If today you produced a 12 pound red diamond that was unique within ten thousand Galaxies, you are more rare than than that.




Go find another earth with a moon in a marriage and show me that a human is a common thing.






God is not going to cast away what he spent 16 billion years to develop


He has a job waiting for all
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Old 09-22-2021, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Can anyone clarify something for me please?

When the resurrected dead arrive at the gates of heaven and Peter asks "Are you Christians?" will he let any in who say "No"?
According to Jesus, heaven is an exclusive 'Christians only' gated community, so wouldn't letting non-christians in be a case of "oops there goes the neighbourhood"?
That might depend on whether or not, they paid their annual HOA fee's or homeowner/fire insurance premiums.


LMAO
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Old 09-23-2021, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Plymouth, England
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Your view of heaven is wrong, change your perspective, heaven is an outcome of 3 positions...
Did Jesus say so?

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Old 09-24-2021, 01:02 AM
 
Location: Townsville
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Can anyone clarify something for me please?-

When the resurrected dead arrive at the gates of heaven and Peter asks "Are you Christians?" will he let any in who say "No"?
According to Jesus, heaven is an exclusive 'Christians only' gated community, so wouldn't letting non-christians in be a case of "oops there goes the neighbourhood"?
I'm just going by the Bible here ...understand? I have no personal first-hand experience to draw on. And so, with this in mind ...THE BIBLE SAYS that 'the dead in Christ will arise from their graves first and meet up with Jesus in the air (1 Thessalonians 4:16)'.

SO, apparently, it's already been determined PRIOR to the resurrection who are and who are not 'in Christ'.
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