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There are 3 in one. God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. God the Son (Jesus) is sent by God the Father. Neither is superior in nature to the other, but one does submit to the other's sending. Jesus never said that the Father was ontologically greater than him.
You are the one accepting the irrationality of the claims you are making, BF, probably out of some misguided sense of obligation to defend the dogma you have been taught as a sign of your devotion and faith in God.
If you mean that as a man, Jesus took on a human nature while still having a divine nature, yes. He never ceased to be God. He's always been God. But he's also human.
Then let's try to honestly present what the doctrine is, then.
We believe that Jesus is God, the Son. He is and always has been God. There is only one God. There are 3 persons within the Godhead, the Son being one of them, along with God the Father, and God the Holy Spirit. All 3 are completely and 100% God. None of them are less God than the others, and they are all the same God.
When we look at things as being separate, then the concept is difficult to explain, just look at all these threads on the trinity, etc. I've read over and over and believe this as well - we are one. This separate stuff is an illusion. Think of a fabric or blanket thrown over/upon the earth. All life is connected via fabrics (too tiny to see). We are all connected, you , me the trees and plants around us. This fabric of life is God Himself and the force He uses to keep it all together is literal love, nothing in creation is apart from it.
There are 3 in one. God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. God the Son (Jesus) is sent by God the Father. Neither is superior in nature to the other, but one does submit to the other's sending. Jesus never said that the Father was ontologically greater than him.
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Originally Posted by MysticPhD
You are the one accepting the irrationality of the claims you are making, BF, probably out of some misguided sense of obligation to defend the dogma you have been taught as a sign of your devotion and faith in God.
There's nothing irrational about what BF said. Your inability to understand the triune nature of God does not make it irrational.
I realize that having experienced the inexplicable and ineffable Oneness, that I am privileged to completely understand what all this refers to, but I understand the confusion people conditioned to a separate physical existence would have with the concept. I was surprised and confused by the retention of my individuality while being unmistakably part of the Oneness. It is truly inexplicable.
I have toyed with explanations that ranged all over the place. None made any sense until I connected with the marriage theme and the man and wife becoming one. The biblical use of the word "know" to refer to it was key. It is love that unites so when we love we are "conceived by God" in the biblical sense of "know." That led to the "pregnancy meme that I use when referring to us as embryo Spirits conceived by God the Father. YMMV.
Man and woman become one via their offspring...That is what that means...
There are 3 in one. God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. God the Son (Jesus) is sent by God the Father. Neither is superior in nature to the other, but one does submit to the other's sending. Jesus never said that the Father was ontologically greater than him.
No such thing as the trinity. What you cant grasp is elohim which involves many distinct individuals.
And the Father is ontologically greater then all the others in the elohim.
Is the Father greater then us? According to you the answer would be no according to your above post for we to are a part of the elohim.
i think, Christ Spirit is representation of God in man.
Me too.
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