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There are about 25 sextillion air molecules in every breath you take. I am no statistician, but some quick arithmetic suggests that Jesus exhaled with his last breath a few of the air molecules that you just now inhaled. That strikes me as profound.
Much of the blood and tissue of Jesus, even allowing for his bodily resurrection, remains here are on Earth today. Cells die off, and the material is expelled and returned to the life cycle. There can be little doubt that you ingest a small part of what was once Jesus' blood and body whenever you drink and eat.
No miracle is needed to explain how you literally eat and drink Jesus. Eating and drinking is intrinsically sacramental. We do it as a ritual in church to remind us.
When I die, I want to become worm food, and be recycled. That way maybe some generations from now one of my descendants will be able to eat from the nutrients I provided for some plants and animals.
Not in a cannibalistic way as taught by some sects (not just Roman Catholics), but in a real manner.
You must not have studied very hard - here are TWO...
Yes, I have read these quotes. Here are more from the church fathers, ones you won’t find on a Catholic website. I don’t suppose you have seen these. It is clear that they believed the bread and fruit of the vine to be symbols of the body and blood of Jesus.
Tertullian (160–225)
“Having taken the bread and given it to His disciples, Jesus made it His own body, by saying, ‘This is My body,’ THAT IS, THE SYMBOL OF MY BODY. There could not have been a symbol, however, unless there was first a true body. An empty thing or phantom is incapable of a symbol. He likewise, when mentioning the cup and making the new covenant to be sealed ‘in His blood,’ affirms the reality of His body. For no blood can belong to a body that is not a body of flesh” (Against Marcion, 4.40).
The Didache
10:4 Thou, Almighty Master, didst create all things for Thy name's sake, and didst give food and drink unto men for enjoyment, that they might render thanks to Thee; 10:5 but didst bestow upon us SPIRITUAL FOOD AND DRINK. and eternal life through Thy Son.
Clement of Alexandria
“The Scripture, accordingly, has named wine THE SYMBOL OF THE SACRED BLOOD ” (The Instructor, 2.2).
Origen
“WE HAVE A SYMBOL OF GRATITUDE TO GOD IN THE BREAD WHICH WE CALL THE EUCHARIST” (Against Celsus, 8.57).
Cyprian (200–258)
“I marvel much whence this practice has arisen, that in some places, contrary to Evangelical and Apostolic discipline, water is offered in the Cup of the Lord, WHICH ALONE CANNOT REPRESENT THE BLOOD OF CHRIST” (Epistle 63.7).
Eusebius of Caesarea*(263–340)*
“For with the wine which WHICH WAS INDEED A SYMBOL OF HIS BLOOD, He cleanses them that are baptized into His death, and believe on His blood, of their old sins, washing them away and purifying their old garments and vesture, so that they, ransomed by the precious blood of the divine spiritual grapes, and with the wine from this vine, "put off the old man with his deeds, and put on the new man which is renewed into knowledge in the image of Him that created him.". . . He gave to His disciples, when He said, "Take, drink; this is my blood that is shed for you for the remission of sins: this do in remembrance of me." And, "His teeth are white as milk," show the brightness and purity of the sacramental food. For again, HE GAVE HIMSELF THE SYMBOLS of His divine dispensation to His disciples, when He bade them make the likeness of His own Body. For since He no more was to take pleasure in bloody sacrifices, or those ordained by Moses in the slaughter of animals of various kinds, and WAS TO GIVE THEM BREAD TO USE AS THE SYMBOL OF HIS BODY, He taught the purity and brightness of such food by saying, “And his teeth are white as milk” (Demonstratia Evangelica, 8.1.76–80).
Augustine (354–430)
“Understand spiritually what I said; you are not to eat this body which you see; nor to drink that blood which they who will crucify me shall pour forth. . . . Although it is needful that this be visibly celebrated, yet it must be SPIRITUALLY UNDERSTOOD” (Exposition of the Psalms, 99.8).
“He committed and delivered to His disciples THE FIGURE [or symbol] of His Body and Blood.” (Exposition of the Psalms, 3.1).
Being that it's Sunday, I think it's a good time to take a break in debating , and instead contemplate on what it is that we should be 'remembering' :
Tried to rep you, but I guess it's too soon. That was a beautiful video!
Now, I'd like to share a musical rendition of an LDS hymn based on the words Jesus said to His Apostles at the Last Supper, as performed by Gladys Knight and her "Be One" choir.
I agree. We can pick this up tomorrow. We had our study first this morning, then our worship following the study. We had a fellowship dinner and then a second service. It was such an uplifting day. I hope yours was too.
Beautiful video. Thank you for sharing!
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Tried to rep you, but I guess it's too soon. That was a beautiful video!
Now, I'd like to share a musical rendition of an LDS hymn based on the words Jesus said to His Apostles at the Last Supper, as performed by Gladys Knight and her "Be One" choir.
Some people like their bread, buttered smooth. Others prefer is sugar coated.
Then, there are those who want their bread of life, plain or slightly toasted.
Tried to rep you, but I guess it's too soon. That was a beautiful video!
Now, I'd like to share a musical rendition of an LDS hymn based on the words Jesus said to His Apostles at the Last Supper, as performed by Gladys Knight and her "Be One" choir.
- thanks for posting! Beautiful! - and Ms. Knight has some amazing pipes!
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