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I honestly think people in city data miss understand San Jose. If they're downtown, it's all great, but once out in the city sprawl, it's boring. The city already has great neighborhoods: Willow Glen, Santana Row, Japan Town and Alameda, but they're disconnected from each other. The city is adding density between those areas, but it's just an added bonus to the city since the city offers choices of urban or suburban.
Downtown San Jose is already exciting. It's one of the nicest downtown in the Bay Area and is a truly a classy urban center with all kinds of transportation to the Bay Area and Santa Cruz.
"One of the nicest downtowns in the Bay Area." Ok well it's also the largest city in the Bay Area. Of the top 3, it has the worst downtown. I'd even put some suburban ones over it, especially when you compare the much smaller suburbs to such a massive city of over 1 million people. San Jose is the epitome of boring soulless suburbs, but nobody from the Bay would ever admit that it's worse than LA in that regard.
As for weather, those that enjoy the summer temperatures in SF and Oak are in the minority. Most people would prefer summers in SJ, Sac, or LBC because they actually get warm, unlike Oak.
As for weather, those that enjoy the summer temperatures in SF and Oak are in the minority. Most people would prefer summers in SJ, Sac, or LBC because they actually get warm, unlike Oak.
Yea, I'm really not quite getting this insistence on these perfect Oakland summer climate or these claims about hellacious Sacramento summers.
It's not really bad, but among these four, Oakland easily has the worst summer climate.
Since I first posted the comment below on August 4th, OAK is the only airport of the four that has added new nonstop international flights.
New nonstop destinations in Bold Red
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Originally Posted by 18Montclair
2015 Airport Passenger Volume
Oakland-OAK 11,205,063
San Jose-SJC 9,799,427
Sacramento-SMF 9,609,880
Long Beach-LGB 2,523,686
Nonstop International Flights:
San Jose-SJC
Nonstop to/from:
Beijing-Capital
Frankfurt
Guadalajara
London-Heathrow
San Jose del Cabo
Shanghai-Pudong
Tokyo-Narita
Vancouver
Oakland-OAK
Nonstop to/from: Barcelona
Copenhagen
Guadalajara
Leon/ El Bajio
Lisbon
London-Gatwick( Norwegian Airlines) London-Gatwick( British Airways)
Mexico City
Morelia
Oslo-Gardermoen Puerto Vallarta
San Jose del Cabo
Stockholm-Arlanda
Terceira( Azores)
Tijuana
Sacramento-SMF
Nonstop to/from:
Guadalajara
Mexico City
A lot more comfortable than Phoenix or Las Vegas perhaps, but those cities are not part of this thread.
Unfortunately for your 'important details', we're comparing Sacramento to Oakland, which in summer is far more comfortable than Sacramento, imcomparably more comfortable.
Your claim that Sacramento summers are "horrible" is bogus.
1. Sacramento summers are no worse and often more comfortable than most cities in the US. Comparing the 4 cities from the thread with other American cities is not only relative it is useful and helpful in describing what the weather is like comparatively speaking.
2. Not only is Sacramento summers more comfortable than Phoenix and Vegas, Sacramento summers are more comfortable than 85% of the other cities in the US. I've proven this over and over again.
3. Some people, a lot of people, feel that an Oakland summers are simply too cool and cloudy and they are used to a warmer summer than Oakland offers.
Yea, I'm really not quite getting this insistence on these perfect Oakland summer climate or these claims about hellacious Sacramento summers.
Hahaha Oakland has a more comfortable summer climate by far vs Sacramento and its not even a question--you are the one insisting against common sense and I find this very amusing.
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It's not really bad, but among these four, Oakland easily has the worst summer climate.
Hahaha Oakland has a more comfortable summer climate by far vs Sacramento and its not even a question--you are the one insisting against common sense and I find this very amusing.
Haha, that's ridiculous, LOL. Who wants a chilly summer? The only places where that works is the Pacific Northwest because of clear skies and ridiculously long days. Oakland "Summers" LOL!
Sac can easily be 10 degrees warmer than Concord by noon and at 6pm at times. I showed that in your Sac weather thread earlier in the summer. Yes the Devil is in the Details; despite similar highs Sac can be noticeable warmer overall still than the inland East Bay.
The comparison is between San Jose, Oakland, LB, and Sac.....not Phoenix or Austin. You always try to bring up the hottest cities in America in when they have nothing to do with the thread to downplay Sac's summer heat.
Bay Area people are so deluded on Sacramento summers that they even ignore where in the Bay Area they are very very close in weather and temperature.
Very very often Concord and Walnut Creek and the entire inner East Bay are near identical to Sacramento summers. Certainly Walnut Creek summers are more like Sacramento than San Francisco and Oakland. You would never know that talking to the average Bay Area resident.
I use Phoenix and Austin and Dozens and Dozens of other American cities to compare with Sacramento because it's relative and quite eye-opening if you pay attention to the facts about how comfortable and how cool Sacramento really is......because you would never get an accurate description of Sacramento weather from a coastal Californian.
One of the reasons I focus on Sacramento weather is because of the distortion of facts that comes out of a coastal Californians mouth about our weather.
Sacramento weather is near identical to SF weather 10 1/2 months out of the year and near identical to the inner East Bay in the Bay Area 12 months out of the year. You would never know this talking to someone from either SF, LA or San Diego.
If you talk to a coastal California you would think Sacramento winters are like some midwestern or northern city and that our summers are identical to any uncomfortably hot city in the US......which is just about 80% of all american cities.
Not only is Sacramento summers more comfortable than Phoenix and Vegas, Sacramento summers are more comfortable than 85% of the other cities in the US. I've proven this over and over again.
What do Phoenix, Vegas and 85% of other cities in the US have to do with this thread? Sacramento is scorching hot in summer compared to Oakland in the summer time, why do you keep pretending it isnt? Ive lived in both cities for years and know this for a fact.
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Some people, a lot of people, feel that an Oakland summer is simple too cool and cloudy and they are used to a warmer summer than Oakland offers.
No most people would say Oakland's climate is more comfortable in the summer. I really dont know who you think your fooling? This is like common knowledge, the Bay is cooler. What's up the resistence to reality?
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