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Old 04-07-2009, 07:30 AM
 
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I can't believe for the life of me why people would want to be conservative.
I, for the life of me, can't understand why people would want to be socialist/liberal, living in a false world of make-believe and utopian idealism, not in reality. Hey, but that's me.


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Overeating? Aren't the most obese states in the south?
It's a cultural thing.....of fried food and Carbohydrates. You know you love it: Fried Okra, Fried Chicken, Macaroni and Cheese, Corn Bread, Biscuits, Sweetened Iced Tea.
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:31 AM
 
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No in the south you will get tacky and outdated

Places like ga and sc..... are you serious?

you should add alabama in with those. LOL
"Tacky and Outdate"? In what regard? Hollywood is influencing you again.
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Chicago - mudhole in the prairie...
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I dont know if you have ever lived anywhere else, but move to a place like Florida and see if you like it..... it is way to hot there for me

I understand where your coming from though because Milwaukee is really cold.

I like the weather in the Jersey, Philly, NYC area. You get all 4 seasons. When its summer its hot and when its winter its cold. Thats the way I like it.
NYC1DAY, you have to understand where he is coming from. Winter in Midwest is not the winter on the east coast. It's terribly cold in here with very little sunshine and killer cold winds thorughout the winter. Also, there are no four seasons here, more like two, because Spring and Fall usually last only a couple of days.
Midwestern winters are something else, the whole area goes into hybernation, survival mode... It's scary....
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:41 AM
 
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this says it all. one of the most educated states and 4 in the least educated states are in the south

way to go "ya'll"
This is easy to explain if you really knew anything about the role of the various demographic components.

Why does the South rank at the bottom?

1. High black Population. (Blacks have an IQ that is 15 points lower than the average. Consequentially, they also have a higher drop-out rate, higher poverty rate, etc.) When the South is populated with a population that is about thirty percent black, it's no wonder why it'll rank at the bottom. The average white educational level is roughly equal to that of the white population in other regions, not in all areas of the south, but in most, particularly in Georgia and North Carolina, as well as in Florida. In Virginia, the white population supercedes most whites from other regions.

2. Most individuals within the South take assessment tests, while those in many non-southern states don't. For example, in the state of Georgia, as well as many other southern states, nearly every high school student takes the SAT or ACT. On the other hand, in a large number of non-southern states, only those committed to go to college take the SAT or ACT. Hence, the northern states are advantaged from the start.

However, the south is not alone at the bottom any longer. Many southwestern states have joined us.

Why have they joined us?

Simple, the demographics have changed. In places like California, Arizona, and New Mexico, millions of illegal Mexicans have moved into these states. Given that Mestizos, of which most of these "Hispanics" are, have lower IQs (not as low as the black population, however), and given that many don't speak English, or at least good English, it's going to have a cumulative effect on the quality of education given, as well as test scores and graduation rates.

Things aren't as black and white as you make them out to be. Demographic components between these states account for most of the differences in education. When equal variables are compared, for example, white population to white population, or black population to black population, they much more even out.

This is the simple reality, for all who choose to accept it.
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:46 AM
 
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Tell you what, I'll change places with you. You can have the ultra conservative, super high heat and humidity of GA and I'll take the liberal cold of the Upper Midwest!
Georgia's humidity isn't a problem until July and August. In June, it's generally comfortable, or bearable. It becomes sticky at the very end of June, or the very beginning of July. This lasts until early September. However, the morning and evening are comfortable. Generally speaking, only between 11 am-7 pm is it an issue.

Georgia isn't "super high heat", either. Sure, it gets hot during July and August, but in the northern part of the state, say around Atlanta, it only gets over ninety degrees, on average, about five days per year. Northern Georgia is more seasonable, given its higher elevation, than neighboring South Carolina and Alabama at the same latitude. In South Georgia, it is hotter. Then again, it's only from late June to early September.

It gets cold in northern Georgia. Right now, it's 45 degrees on April 7. Given this isn't the norm, it is the norm for January and February.
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:50 AM
 
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Sadly enough the people of the South largely seem to prefer such an environment.
And so do those in the north. Even Scranton and Wilkes-Barre have their "sprawl". The only reason you don't see that much of it there is because Scranton and Wilkes-Barre did most of developing in an earlier time period, and because your region hasn't grown much in forty years.
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:53 AM
 
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I live in Arizona, but Minneapolis is the only city in the Midwest/Plains that I would EVER consider living in. I know that Minneapolis gets bitterly cold during the winter. It seems like the city is outfitted for cold weather. The friendliness of people in Minneapolis is unrivaled in any major metropolitan area of the country, many people are very well educated, many neighborhoods are very attractive, and there are many cultural amenities.

It really isn't all about weather. I think people in colder climates somehow think that the quality of life in warmer climates is impeccable. Not even close. Even those it's warm outside, you still have to deal with the grind of daily life.
The Minneapolis/St. Paul appears modern, in comparison to most metros of the Great Lakes and northeast. The road layout is very efficient. The homes are well taken care of. The parks are and lakes are vast. Overall, it seems to have a very good quality of life, when it's warm enough to enjoy it.

There are some nice areas of metro Chicago, too, or any other metro, but it seems that the nice is overshadowed by the less than nice. I could say this of Detroit and Buffalo. Yet, Detroit has some very nice suburbs, particularly to the north.
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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What's wrong with Ole Miss or LSU?

Literally any college up north? LOL

You do realize that we do have Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, Duke, Emory, as well as many other institutions which "blow the socks off" of Wisconsin, Illinois or whatever random school that you put forth. Sure, there are some high end universities up north, but so there are also such down south.
Colleges in the South "blow the socks off" of Wisconsin? You're kidding right? Didn't you see my earlier post which showed the most and least educated states? Virginia was the only Southern state in the most educated category, and that's mainly due to all of the East Coat transplants living in NOVA. Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, and Louisiana are consistently ranked among the least educated states in the country. Why on earth would anybody want to go to college there is beyond me.

9 out of the 11 schools that make up the Big Ten Conference are considered to be "Public Ivy." Public Ivy's "provide an Ivy League collegiate experience at a public school price."

Indiana University
Michigan State University
Ohio State University
Pennsylvania State University
University of Illinois
University of Iowa
University of Michigan
University of Minnesota
University of Wisconsin
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:47 AM
 
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Colleges in the South "blow the socks off" of Wisconsin? You're kidding right? Didn't you see my earlier post which showed the most and least educated states? Virginia was the only Southern state in the most educated category, and that's mainly due to all of the East Coat transplants living in NOVA. Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, and Louisiana are consistently ranked among the least educated states in the country. Why on earth would anybody want to go to college there is beyond me.

9 out of the 11 schools that make up the Big Ten Conference are considered to be "Public Ivy." Public Ivy's "provide an Ivy League collegiate experience at a public school price."

Indiana University
Michigan State University
Ohio State University
Pennsylvania State University
University of Illinois
University of Iowa
University of Michigan
University of Minnesota
University of Wisconsin
I've explained the reasons for the "least educated" category, if you failed to read.

Why is the University of Illinois, Penn State, Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Ohio State, etc. better than the University of Georgia, Universtiy of North Carolina, NC State, University of Tennessee, University of Alabama, University of Florida, Florida State, etc.?

Oh, because you're biased, and you think that the "north" is superior to the south.
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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I've explained the reasons for the "least educated" category, if you failed to read.

Why is the University of Illinois, Penn State, Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Ohio State, etc. better than the University of Georgia, Universtiy of North Carolina, NC State, University of Tennessee, University of Alabama, University of Florida, Florida State, etc.?

Oh, because you're biased, and you think that the "north" is superior to the south.
Ah yes, you blamed all of the South's educational ills on its Black residents. Sorry, but I have a really hard time believing that they're solely responsible for the entire region lagging behind in education. Especially since states like Illinois, Michigan, Maryland, New Jersey, Delaware, New York, and Connecticut all have large Black populations as well, yet they aren't suffering education deficiencies like the Southern states.
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