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Old 03-31-2009, 08:36 PM
 
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All true (except the city core has 520K, not 400K)...but that is changing, and quickly. It is silly to assume that a city growing as fast as Atlanta will remain in its' current state. 'Strip malls'? 'Chain restaurants'? 'Unwalkable'? In case you haven't been here lately, those very generic and outmoded adjectives no longer describe our city. And the growth has reached a point where it's no longer going out, but up...the fact that the core city has gone from 300K to 520K in less than two decades is evidence enough of that.
I checked online and Atlanta had 519,145 in Jan of 2007.

I would guess it is probably around 700,000 now. Who knows? It is definately bigger than 520,000 though

Atlanta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:40 PM
 
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I checked online and Atlanta had 519,145 in Jan of 2007.

I would guess it is probably around 700,000 now. Who knows? It is definately bigger than 520,000 though

Atlanta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I guess I mispoke too. But saying that has over 700,000 now, I think you might be over stating their pop. Point is, it's basically a 10/1 ratio. Their burbs compared to their city.
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Mile high city
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1.

Boston Metro = 7,476,689
Dallas Metro = 6,498,410

Boston = 608,352
Dallas = 1,240,499

It depends on what you are comparing. Metro or city?

Also, Dallas is a sprawl and Boston is not!

2.

Dallas has 30 buildings at 400 ft
Boston has 26 buildings at 400 ft

So they are similar in height. However, as far as density goes (buildings under 400 ft) Boston kills Dallas.

IMO, their are three things holding Dallas back from being on boston's level

A. Dallas is not dense. It is a sprawl
B. Dallas does not have good transit and boston does
C. Dallas lacks food options/walkable neighborhoods/culture.
I am not sure what criteria you are using to measure skylines but its done by 500 footers.

A. ^ New York has 206 existing and under construction buildings over 500 feet (152 m), Chicago has 107, Miami has 37, Houston has 31, Los Angeles has 22, Dallas has 19, Atlanta has 19, San Francisco has 18, Las Vegas has 17, Boston has 16, Seattle has 12, Philadelphia has 10, Pittsburgh has 10, Jersey City has nine, Minneapolis has eight and Denver has seven. Source of skyline ranking information: SkyscraperPage.com: New York, Chicago, Miami, Houston, Los Angeles, Dallas, Atlanta, San Francisco, Las Vegas, Boston, Seattle, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Jersey City, Minneapolis, Denver, Detroit. Denver is tied with Detroit as the 16th-largest skyline, as Detroit also has seven existing and under construction buildings at least 500 feet (152 m) in height
List of tallest buildings in Denver - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also, another way to measure a cities size is by its CBD.

RANKING: Central Business District EMPLOYMENT

1 New York 1,736,900
2 Chicago 541,500
3 Washington 382,400
4 San Francisco-San Jose 305,600
5 Boston 257,000
6 Philadelphia 220,100
7 Seattle 155,100
8 Houston 153,400
9 Los Angeles 143,700
10 Atlanta 129,800
11 Denver 126,000
12 Minneapolis-St. Paul 105,400
13 Cleveland 100,300
14 Baltimore 98,500
15 Miami 98,000
16 Pittsburgh 95,600
17 Columbus 88,800
18 Austin 86,000
19 New Orleans 81,400
20 Dallas-Fort Worth 79,900

Demographia, “United States Central Business Districts (Downtowns): 50 Largest Urban Areas 2000 Data on Employment & Transit Work Trips,†June 2006, at www.demographia.com/db-cbd2000.pdf
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:43 PM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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I guess I mispoke too. But saying that has over 700,000 now, I think you might be over stating their pop. Point is, it's basically a 10/1 ratio. Their burbs compared to their city.
True, but it's interesting to see 'city centers' popping up all over the metro. Examples:

Decatur
Smyrna
Vinings
Suwanee
Lawrenceville
Sandy Springs
Perimeter
Cumberland

With many more on the drawing board.
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:44 PM
 
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I use 400 footers. That is my personal preference.

400 footers can clearly make an impact on a skyline
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:44 PM
 
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I checked online and Atlanta had 519,145 in Jan of 2007.

I would guess it is probably around 700,000 now. Who knows?

Atlanta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Island known as Atlanta is probably over 700k. Driving through the City you could see a lot of construction. They're really going to pack it all in and I'm cool with that. A lot of the old timers that I've spoken to hate that "everything's changing" but hey.
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:44 PM
 
Location: USA
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Ya, and I guess spending half your life in traffic is better than a city that provides extensive public transit?....

Does that "great weather" include the smog?... Or how about a change in seasons? Unless if you consider the Santa Anna winds a change?

Does extremely "dense" take a back seat to extremely "sprawled"?..
Yes

Yes

And...Yes
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:48 PM
 
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Yes

Yes

And...Yes
No

No

And...NO
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:49 PM
 
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LA is completely diffent than NYC. That doesn't mean that they don't envy NYC. Besides Hollywood, they live in NYC's shadow in just about every other dept. Plus, there's a lot of movies filmed in NYC. And over the years, alot of celebs actually chose NYC as home over LA.
I can guarantee you no one in LA is living in envy of NYC(coming from someone having lived in both and not missing it for a second)..they don't live in NYC'S shadow because there to busy enjoying there own city to think of NYC..and celebs can move wherever they want..who cares? some celebs live in little podunk towns instead of either NY or LA does that make those podunk towns better? LOL,no. And living half there lives in traffic? I've spent one day in traffic and that was moving here otherwise the traffic is only for small stretches and is over pretty quick..and have only seen one day where the smog actually effected the weather..every other day except for 3 cloudy and windy days and one day of rain has been 70 and 80s barely any clouds and sunshine,sorry. Don't assume things based on stereotypes when you don't live here day to day and experience it for yourself. Not that I actually care what some troll thinks but you ride NYC way to hard..don't you live in Pittsburgh? LOL,you should probably worry about your own city instead of everyone elses.
And the transit here is fine..a great light rail system and more buses than you could imagine..does it compare with other cities? nope not one bit but does it get the job done? yeah actually it does.
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:52 PM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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The Island known as Atlanta is probably over 700k. Driving through the City you could see a lot of construction. They're really going to pack it all in and I'm cool with that. A lot of the old timers that I've spoken to hate that "everything's changing" but hey.
Not this 'old timer'...I love it, frankly. As far as density, the city looks more like a spine than an island...that 'spine' being Peachtree Rd. Highrise development runs for about six miles out of Downtown and peaks there, Midtown and Buckhead. From the air, you'll also see the 'highrise islands' of Cumberland/Vinings, Perimeter (bridging Sandy Springs and Dunwoody), and to a lesser extent, Decatur. It is my belief that Alpharetta will eventually follow suit.
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