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View Poll Results: Which City is more Urban???
Miami 137 51.89%
Houston 43 16.29%
Dallas 28 10.61%
Atlanta 56 21.21%
Voters: 264. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-25-2009, 08:40 AM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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Not surprised to see cities with smaller city limit populations in that list (outside of maybe three cities).
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Old 09-25-2009, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Miami is the most urban. Its nightlife, restaurant scene and shopping are the most evolved to a "European capital" or "Asian capital" standard of measure.
And again, none of this equates to being the most "urban." And yet again, L.A has all of this and more-so than Miami. Does that make L.A. urban? No.

Having world-class restaurants, shops, and bustling nightlife simply means that a place has world-class restaurants, shops, and bustling nightlife. While it is a feature of urbanity, it does not equate to a city being urban.
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Old 09-25-2009, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Not surprised to see cities with smaller city limit populations in that list (outside of maybe three cities).
Whether smart people are attracted to cities with smaller populations is anyone's theory, but the bottom line is Atlanta is ranked higher than Dallas, Houston, and Miami based on the primary measure available to us.
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Old 09-25-2009, 09:18 AM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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Whether smart people are attracted to cities with smaller populations is anyone's theory, but the bottom line is Atlanta is ranked higher than Dallas, Houston, and Miami based on the primary measure available to us.
Uh...no. I'm not saying that smaller cities attract more educated people. It's the numbers are skewed since Atlanta has such a small part of its overall metro population and has small city limits. Houston and Dallas cover larger areas and more people. It's better to look at overall metro areas for things like this, not city limits. That makes no sense.
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Old 09-25-2009, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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It's the numbers are skewed since Atlanta has such a small part of its overall metro population and has small city limits. Houston and Dallas cover larger areas and more people. It's better to look at overall metro areas for things like this, not city limits. That makes no sense.
Wth did you get this from?! Did you even look at the methodology of the study? If you read the census bureau's actual report, you would see that they adjusted for city size.
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Old 09-25-2009, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Uh...no. I'm not saying that smaller cities attract more educated people. It's the numbers are skewed since Atlanta has such a small part of its overall metro population and has small city limits. Houston and Dallas cover larger areas and more people. It's better to look at overall metro areas for things like this, not city limits. That makes no sense.
Try this on for size then.

Fulton County, GA ranked 22nd nationally at 42%

Harris County, TX ranked 120th Nationally at 28.2%

Source: ACS: Ranking Table -- Percent of People 25 Years and Over Who Have Completed a Bachelor's Degree (http://www.census.gov/acs/www/Products/Ranking/2002/R02T050.htm - broken link)
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Old 09-25-2009, 09:44 AM
 
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You guys are "tripping"
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Old 09-25-2009, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Try this on for size then.

Fulton County, GA ranked 22nd nationally at 42%

Harris County, TX ranked 120th Nationally at 28.2%

Source: ACS: Ranking Table -- Percent of People 25 Years and Over Who Have Completed a Bachelor's Degree (http://www.census.gov/acs/www/Products/Ranking/2002/R02T050.htm - broken link)
Fulton County,GA - 529 Sq. Miles
Harris County,TX - 1,729 Sq. Miles
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Old 09-25-2009, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Try this on for size then.

Fulton County, GA ranked 22nd nationally at 42%

Harris County, TX ranked 120th Nationally at 28.2%

Source: ACS: Ranking Table -- Percent of People 25 Years and Over Who Have Completed a Bachelor's Degree (http://www.census.gov/acs/www/Products/Ranking/2002/R02T050.htm - broken link)
Shall we add that all of Atlanta's metro counties except one are in the top 60? I think we shall:

15. Cobb County, GA
22. Fulton County, GA
56. Dekalb County, GA
60. Gwinnett County, GA

127. Dallas County

173. Miami-Dade County

What was that again? I swear people talk out their arse sometimes. And if people have misconceptions about this, I'm sure they have misconceptions about a lot of stuff with Atlanta. Get your facts straight people.
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Old 09-25-2009, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Fulton County,GA - 529 Sq. Miles
Harris County,TX - 1,729 Sq. Miles
That argument, btw, is null. The study already adjusted for size. But since y'all wanted to play that game, we added that stats for county statistics of the whole metro area, and it still shows Dallas and Miami being pretty horrible.

If you add metro Atlanta's population it clearly makes it even better for Atlanta considering that the metro, though more poorer, undereducated people are being forced to the suburbs, is largely where a lot of higher-educated, higher-income transplants choose to reside.

Of course, none of this is really that relevant to "urbanity" but just to provide clarity on our city's educational endeavors, which is among the best in the nation. Tis all...thanks for playing.
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