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Old 09-29-2022, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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^^^And that's the truth.

Pennsylvanian here. Fetterman will be fine in this midterm election.

Even in the so-called "Pennsyltucky" areas of our state, Fetterman is liked. He is well known and respected in the most conservative areas of PA as well as in the cities and suburbs. He has been our Lieutenant Governor since 2019 and maintains a boatload of support. The issues he runs on are the same issues he’s been working on for the last two decades.

Voters here are not taking kindly to Mehmet Oz, a snake oil salesman who is a forced-birth extremist and an election denier. I like Fetterman's chances.
Quite the assumptions. Those of us in the Pittsburgh area have known what a freeloading clown he’s been for years. He was a lousy mayor of a still lousy town that’s so bad he won’t even send his kids to the local school…and sounds like even more of a dullard since he had his stroke…but there are many folks that relate to these things, along with defending and enabling criminals.

Except Oz is a self made success and renowned surgeon that’s accomplished more than Fetterman ever will.

 
Old 09-29-2022, 09:27 PM
 
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Quite the assumptions. Those of us in the Pittsburgh area have known what a freeloading clown he’s been for years. He was a lousy mayor of a still lousy town that’s so bad he won’t even send his kids to the local school…and sounds like even more of a dullard since he had his stroke…but there are many folks that relate to these things, along with defending and enabling criminals.

Except Oz is a self made success and renowned surgeon that’s accomplished more than Fetterman ever will.
Those of us in Pittsburgh know the facts of John Fetterman, born and raised in our commonwealth, who is the current lieutenant-governor of Pennsylvania. After college he worked for AmeriCorps and helped set up computer labs in a poor Pittsburgh neighborhood and taught GED classes to young adult dropouts. Then he went on to earn a Masters in Public Policy from Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government.

After Harvard, he moved to Braddock, Pennsylvania, one of the poorest and most challenged communities in the state--- which was once a booming steel town of 20,000 and now less than 2,000 people---to start and run another GED program. He was asked to run for mayor and spent 13 years working to help rebuild the community. Last time I visited this area, while Fetterman was mayor, (I was working in public health and attended a state sponsored policy meeting in this town which is 70% Black with a median household income of $23,000) it had a new community center, urban gardens, and a free store run by his wife.

Lieutenant-Governor Fetterman is hardly a freeloading clown, and it is quite unkind of you to characterize your neighboring community Braddock, down on its luck since the decline in the steel industry, as lousy. BTW the borough or the mayor does not run the school district. Braddock is only one of 12 Pittsburgh municipalities served by a large district called Woodland Hills 15 miles away.

Despite his medical degree and an MBA from Penn, Dr. Oz is known for his knack for quackery, at least in the view of the dozen or so Columbia faculty who wanted him removed from that esteemed institution for “disdain for science and evidence-based medicine”. Multiple medical publications and numerous public health entities have pointed out that many of his recommendations have no scientific basis. In fact, Oz's hawking of phony "supplements" got him charged with fraud and he was ordered to pay millions to settle misleading advertising claims.

MAGA Republican-"America First" candidate Mehmet Oz maintains dual citizenship with Turkey, served in the Turkish Army, owns real estate in Turkey, has an endorsement deal with Turkish Airlines, and voted in Turkey’s 2018 presidential election.

Far from assumptions, such as the ones you make, the above are the facts.

When comparing Dr. Oz, the carpetbagger/snake oil salesman, who lives in New Jersey and works in New York City, with a genuine Pennsylvanian & Lieutenant-Governor, who has a long track record of public service and policy experience, it becomes easy to understand Fetterman's popularity and massive support across the state.

I like Fetterman's chances.

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Old 09-29-2022, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Those of us in Pittsburgh know the facts of John Fetterman, born and raised in our commonwealth, who is the current lieutenant-governor of Pennsylvania. After college he worked for AmeriCorps and helped set up computer labs in a poor Pittsburgh neighborhood and taught GED classes to young adult dropouts. Then he went on to earn a Masters in Public Policy from Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government.

He then moved to Braddock, Pennsylvania, one of the poorest and most challenged communities in the state--- which was once a booming steel town of 20,0000 and now less than 2,000 people---to start and run another GED program. He was asked to run for mayor and spent 13 years working to help rebuild the community. Last time I visited this area, while Fetterman was mayor, (I was working in public health and attended a state sponsored policy meeting in this town which is 70% Black with a median household income of $23,000) it had a new community center, urban gardens, and a free store run by his wife.

Lieutenant-Governor Fetterman is hardly a freeloading clown, and it is quite unkind of you to characterize your neighboring community Braddock, down on its luck since the decline in the steel industry, as lousy. BTW the borough or the mayor does not run the school district. Braddock is only one of 12 Pittsburgh municipalities served by a large district called Woodland Hills.

Despite his medical degree and an MBA from Penn, Dr. Oz is known for his knack for quackery, at least in the view of the dozen or so Columbia faculty who wanted him removed from that esteemed institution for “disdain for science and evidence-based medicine”. Multiple medical publications and numerous public health entities have pointed out that many of his recommendations have no scientific basis. In fact, Oz's hawking of phony "supplements" got him charged with fraud and he was ordered to pay millions to settle misleading advertising claims.

MAGA Republican-"America First" candidate Mehmet Oz maintains dual citizenship with Turkey, served in the Turkish Army, owns real estate in Turkey, has an endorsement deal with Turkish Airlines, and voted in Turkey’s 2018 presidential election.

Far from assumptions, such as the ones you make, the above are the facts.

When comparing Dr. Oz, the carpetbagger/snake oil salesman who lives in New Jersey and works in New York City, with a genuine Pennsylvanian & Lieutenant-Governor who has a long track record of public service and policy experience it becomes easy to understand Fetterman's popularity and massive support across the state.

I like his chances.
He’s lived off of mom and dad for most of his life, and has accomplished all but nothing in his political career…but folks do relate to him dressing like a slob, defending and enabling criminals, supporting free stuff, etc…

Except he was a lousy mayor of still a lousy town and couldn’t even clean it up to send his kids to the local school, hence he sends them to private school…and defending and enabling criminals doesn’t help to clean up areas, it makes them worse.

Funny how you ignore him being a renowned surgeon and didn’t live off of mom and dad most all his life like Fetterman did.

Gasp, dual citizenship, lol. Nothing you’ve said proves that Oz couldn’t be a great politician for PA, but we do know that Fetterman couldn’t even clean up a small town hence it’s still lousy.

If Fetterman actually had popularity and massive support across the state the race wouldn’t be so tight and there would be more confidence in just liking his chances, even in a blue state that PA is.
 
Old 09-30-2022, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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BTW the borough or the mayor does not run the school district. Braddock is only one of 12 Pittsburgh municipalities served by a large district called Woodland Hills 15 miles away.
I'm amazed at the people who still don't understand how local school districts are run and funded, and who is responsible for their policies and operations. People who claim that they are 'patriots'! Well, doesn't patriotism begin at the local level by understanding who and what you're voting for?

Hilarious.

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When comparing Dr. Oz, the carpetbagger/snake oil salesman, who lives in New Jersey and works in New York City, with a genuine Pennsylvanian & Lieutenant-Governor, who has a long track record of public service and policy experience, it becomes easy to understand Fetterman's popularity and massive support across the state.
 
Old 09-30-2022, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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I'm amazed at the people who still don't understand how local school districts are run and funded, and who is responsible for their policies and operations. People who claim that they are 'patriots'! Well, doesn't patriotism begin at the local level by understanding who and what you're voting for?

Hilarious.


It’s amazing how folks ignore the fact that Fetterman was so inept as a mayor that they think he could represent a state, and with his recent stroke he sounds more inept than ever, and even too weak to debate a meanie Republican like Oz…but he’ll do it after mail in voting starts, lol
 
Old 09-30-2022, 09:54 AM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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It’s amazing how folks ignore the fact that Fetterman was so inept as a mayor that they think he could represent a state, and with his recent stroke he sounds more inept than ever, and even too weak to debate a meanie Republican like Oz…but he’ll do it after mail in voting starts, lol
How would you rate Dr. Oz's experience with The Dr. Oz Show to prepare him for the Senate?
 
Old 09-30-2022, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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How would you rate Dr. Oz's experience with The Dr. Oz Show to prepare him for the Senate?
I’d rate Dr. Oz by his abilities to be a self made success that’s done more work than his so called blue collar opponent that’s proven to have done near nothing and needed mommy and daddy to support him.

Still haven’t heard why Oz can’t be a great politician for PA, other than muh carpetbagger, he has 9 houses, uses a fancy word for vegetables, etc.. Do you have reasons why he can’t be?
 
Old 09-30-2022, 11:48 AM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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I’d rate Dr. Oz by his abilities to be a self made success that’s done more work than his so called blue collar opponent that’s proven to have done near nothing and needed mommy and daddy to support him.

Still haven’t heard why Oz can’t be a great politician for PA, other than muh carpetbagger, he has 9 houses, uses a fancy word for vegetables, etc.. Do you have reasons why he can’t be?
There is no question that at one time Dr. Oz was a top cardiothoracic surgeon, author, professor emeritus and vice chair of his department at Columbia University, triple board certified, authored hundreds of peer-reviewed articles and been awarded several patents. But since 2009, his main occupation has been a TV show with subject matter is not supported by published studies and more than half of the recommendations on his shows contradicted medical research.

The American Medical Association’s code of ethics discourages physicians from selling or being paid to endorse any health products beyond medication. Oz has long used his TV show to hawk specific products, though he has claimed in the past that he has never personally profited from that activity. Dr. Oz is a snake-oil salesman who has built his TV career and fortune by preying on people's frustration with the medical industry. He has abused his position of respect as a doctor to harm others for his own enrichment.

Dr. Oz's pseudoscience has caused him to be criticized by the medical community and before Congress. See the following articles:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6167233/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffber...h=4bd4ac151162

https://www.businessinsider.com/medi...atments-2022-8

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...r-or-a-doctor/

https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org...n-work/2017-02

https://www.sciencealert.com/Trump-d...tific-evidence

https://www.vox.com/2015/4/16/842386...etter-columbia

https://www.bmj.com/content/349/bmj.g7346

Dr. Oz saw an opportunity to win a Senate seat by taking advantage of his celebrity status and pledging allegiance to Donald Trump. His name recognition and Trump's endorsement won him the Republican nomination over a much more qualified candidate in David McCormick even though he didn't live in PA. He fooled Republican voters in the primary, don't let him fool all PA voters in November.
 
Old 09-30-2022, 12:06 PM
 
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How would you rate Dr. Oz's experience with The Dr. Oz Show to prepare him for the Senate?

Apply that question to Fattermen that caused his own stroke and ruined a little town. He has bad ideas after bad ideas.
 
Old 09-30-2022, 12:17 PM
 
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Dr. Oz saw an opportunity to win a Senate seat by taking advantage of his celebrity status and pledging allegiance to Donald Trump. His name recognition and Trump's endorsement won him the Republican nomination over a much more qualified candidate in David McCormick even though he didn't live in PA. He fooled Republican voters in the primary, don't let him fool all PA voters in November.
I know TDS makes people be all over the place since their #1 issue is to hate Trump and anybody he endorses but David McCormick is a W Bush Republican, pro China, pro outsourcing and pro endless wars. He supports TPP. He supported Jeb Bush in 2016, so he is neo con that wants to return the party to the Bush doctrine.

You as a Democrat, I find it funny and hypocritical that you would embrace a neo con and say McCormick is a better candidate because Trump endorsed the other guy and you hate Trump. On what issues?

Democrats lost their minds when they now embrace neo cons and endless wars and the establishment.
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