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And contrary to your belief, there’s a lot of folks that agree with him, and they’re not extremists like you assume they are…and you’re pulling the D lever no matter who the Dem candidate is, even freeloading Fetterman that was a lousy mayor of still a lousy area, yet folks think he could represent an entire state, even in the condition he’s in after his stroke, lol.
Extremist is just another overused Dem attack label which will backfire and upset some voters.
Not unlike what happened in Virginia where suburban voters didn't like being labeled as racist for challenging CRT in the classroom.
This race is an example of the fact that we need a serious overhaul. Voters shouldn't have to choose between these two or a third party/write in candidate with no hope of success.
And contrary to your belief, there’s a lot of folks that agree with him, and they’re not extremists like you assume they are…and you’re pulling the D lever no matter who the Dem candidate is, even freeloading Fetterman that was a lousy mayor of still a lousy area, yet folks think he could represent an entire state, even in the condition he’s in after his stroke, lol.
With all due respect, erieguy, there are a few things you've twisted that demand clarification:
I don't believe there aren't a lot of folks that agree with Mehmet Oz. That's a silly assumption you've made. Oz the GOP candidate for senator obviously wouldn't have won the primary over several other Republicans if he didn't have lots of voters.
Oz's stance on women's reproductive rights and his position denying the results of the 2020 election are indeed extreme. They are radical reactionary right wing political positions. It is you who appears to claim all of his supporters are extremists, not I. Why is that?
If I do or don't pull the D lever is another of your puzzling assumptive & distractive accusations, and not relative to the qualifications of each of these candidates vying for the right to represent Pennsylvania in the U.S. Senate. Why is that?
So back to the topic of Oz & Fetterman the candidates and their positions and qualifications.
The Republicans of Pennsylvania selected Mehmet Oz a former cardiac surgeon--- from Harvard & U Penn--- turned television hawker of “miracle” diet products, and champion of several discredited pseudoscience COVID treatments. He is a forced birther and election denier, who works in New York and resides in New Jersey. He was raised in Ohio, the son of a cardiologist. Oh, and he is married to the Asplundh heiress worth about $3B. I bring that up because some on this thread inaccurately believe the amount of money someone has amassed is equal to success and it therefore makes them eminently qualified for governing. Oz has not yet settled on his actual platform outside of questioning the 2020 election, tax breaks for upper income earners and aligning himself with the GOP movement which is cruelly indifferent to the women of this country.
The Democratic primary voters selected our current Lieutenant-Governor John Fetterman, a lifelong Pennsylvanian who earned an advanced degree in Public Policy from Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government. He worked for AmeriCorps for many years setting up GED programs in downtrodden neighborhoods and communities around Pittsburgh. Was asked to run for mayor of one of the poorest and most challenged towns in the state. Served for 13 years before being elected to his current position. The issues he runs on are the same issues he’s been working on for the last two decades: women's rights, free and fair elections, rule of law, incarceration honesty and educational sanity. I have no knowledge of whether his parents helped support his family household expenses when he was mayor of Braddock--- a town of 2,000 where the median family income was $23,000---or when he was working for AmeriCorps teaching adults how to read & organizing programs to help others obtain their GED. But if they did, it does not seem to me, like some sort of character flaw portrayed by some on this thread. He does look a bit like an unmade bed on the campaign trail, though, but we Pennsylvanians have seen him in cleaned up attire for his office and more formal work.
I like Fetterman's chances. IMO he is a good fit to represent Pennsylvania in the U.S. Senate.
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I haven’t twisted anything and that’s a whole lot of deflection and strawman arguments, and I never said all of his supporters are extremists, that would be you making an unfounded claim.
It’s not an assumption. You’re pulling the D lever no matter who the candidate is…because Republicans.
Mom and dad supporting Fetterman most all his life has been known for years and proven, you just choose to ignore it. The fact is he’s a freeloader, was a lousy mayor of a still lousy town, defends and enables criminals, promotes free stuff, dresses like a slob, etc…, and his supporters relate to those things. He’s the definition of low standards….and the idea that he should represent an entire state with so little of accomplishments is great stuff.
With all due respect, erieguy, there are a few things you've twisted that demand clarification:
I don't believe there aren't a lot of folks that agree with Mehmet Oz. That's a silly assumption you've made. Oz the GOP candidate for senator obviously wouldn't have won the primary over several other Republicans if he didn't have lots of voters.
Oz's stance on women's reproductive rights and his position denying the results of the 2020 election are indeed extreme. They are radical reactionary right wing political positions. It is you who appears to claim all of his supporters are extremists, not I. Why is that?
If I do or don't pull the D lever is another of your puzzling assumptive & distractive accusations, and not relative to the qualifications of each of these candidates vying for the right to represent Pennsylvania in the U.S. Senate. Why is that?
So back to the topic of Oz & Fetterman the candidates and their positions and qualifications.
The Republicans of Pennsylvania selected Mehmet Oz a former cardiac surgeon--- from Harvard & U Penn--- turned television hawker of “miracle” diet products, and champion of several discredited pseudoscience COVID treatments. He is a forced birther and election denier, who works in New York and resides in New Jersey. He was raised in Ohio, the son of a cardiologist. Oh, and he is married to the Asplundh heiress worth about $3B. I bring that up because some on this thread inaccurately believe the amount of money someone has amassed is equal to success and it therefore makes them eminently qualified for governing. Oz has not yet settled on his actual platform outside of questioning the 2020 election, tax breaks for upper income earners and aligning himself with the GOP movement which is cruelly indifferent to the women of this country.
The Democratic primary voters selected our current Lieutenant-Governor John Fetterman, a lifelong Pennsylvanian who earned an advanced degree in Public Policy from Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government. He worked for AmeriCorps for many years setting up GED programs in downtrodden neighborhoods and communities around Pittsburgh. Was asked to run for mayor of one of the poorest and most challenged towns in the state. Served for 13 years before being elected to his current position. The issues he runs on are the same issues he’s been working on for the last two decades: women's rights, free and fair elections, rule of law, incarceration honesty and educational sanity. I have no knowledge of whether his parents helped support his family household expenses when he was mayor of Braddock--- a town of 2,000 where the median family income was $23,000---or when he was working for AmeriCorps teaching adults how to read & organizing programs to help others obtain their GED. But if they did, it does not seem to me, like some sort of character flaw portrayed by some on this thread. He does look a bit like an unmade bed on the campaign trail, though, but we Pennsylvanians have seen him in cleaned up attire for his office and more formal work.
I like Fetterman's chances. IMO he is a good fit to represent Pennsylvania in the U.S. Senate.
Excellent post! I would add a couple comments. Fetterman also has an MBA from the University of Connecticut. He worked for two years as a risk-management writer at Chubb & Son after he got his MBA. He decided to leave that job and become a social worker taking an AmeriCorps service job with the Hill House Association in Pittsburgh.
I question everything about Oz's political beliefs. I question how long he has held the views he expresses now that he is running for the Senate. He reminds me of J. D. Vance. With no political experience, Dr. Oz saw an opening for a Senate seat when Pat Toomey said he wouldn't run for reelection and Sean Parnell, the leading Republican candidate at the time, had to withdraw from the race because of had been accused by his estranged wife of spousal and child abuse. Dr. Oz saw the opening and saw that openly supported Trump's beliefs, he could get his endorsement. With the almost $14M in personal loans and contributions from his wife’s wealthy family, the owners and heirs to the Asplundh Tree Expert company, Dr. Oz was set to start his campaign.
Dr. Oz got bored as a cardiothoracic surgeon. He became bored as a snake oil salesman on TV. Not he wants tor try as a new career as a Senator from a state that just happened to have an opening even though he didn't live there.
Excellent post! I would add a couple comments. Fetterman also has an MBA from the University of Connecticut. He worked for two years as a risk-management writer at Chubb & Son after he got his MBA. He decided to leave that job and become a social worker taking an AmeriCorps service job with the Hill House Association in Pittsburgh.
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I guess if you repeat b.s. over and over you tend do believe it. All you have to do with Fetterman is look at his lousy record as mayor from 2006-2019. Economy got worse and crime got worse. He left that town a mess.
He didn't have much power as LT. Governor but use his position as a bully and activist to pardon criminals back to the streets. This clown is dangerous with power.
Very little reason to go to Braddock. It’s a dumpy area.
It doesn’t take a medical degree to see that he sounds even more of a dullard than usual and uses his health excuse not to debate until after mail in voting starts.
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