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Old 01-14-2015, 08:29 AM
 
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Old 01-14-2015, 07:07 PM
 
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MOS.

Russia has laws on the books concerning NGOs (non governmental organizations) which churches fall under if I'm not mistaken. Religion is a very prominent point of contention between peoples and the west is very adept at using it to drive wedges between people and create conflict. Onr reason there has been little or no trouble in Russia is Putin saw western NGOs for what they were. Vessels which could be used to spread strife and war. Ukraine was full of them and has been for decades. Almost every member of the current junta in Kiev was involved in NGOs in some way.

On reading the article it appears to me that the good preacher is concerned for his people in the eastern Ukraine. Hmmm. Just who are his people?

I'd watch these people like hawks.
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Old 01-14-2015, 08:20 PM
 
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MOS.

Russia has laws on the books concerning NGOs (non governmental organizations) which churches fall under if I'm not mistaken. Religion is a very prominent point of contention between peoples and the west is very adept at using it to drive wedges between people and create conflict. Onr reason there has been little or no trouble in Russia is Putin saw western NGOs for what they were. Vessels which could be used to spread strife and war. Ukraine was full of them and has been for decades. Almost every member of the current junta in Kiev was involved in NGOs in some way.

On reading the article it appears to me that the good preacher is concerned for his people in the eastern Ukraine. Hmmm. Just who are his people?

I'd watch these people like hawks.
Scrat I am missing from your passionate speech the honorary acknowledgment of the famous "fifth column" sitting in Russia.
How could you?
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Old 01-14-2015, 11:29 PM
 
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Good bye, gas!
Russia wants to stop gas transit through Ukraine. In Europe, surprised | Ukrainian Crisis
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Old 01-14-2015, 11:59 PM
 
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Re: "..ammunition support, financial support and most likely consultants"

Well I'd think Makisim would be intrigued by this one since the piece notes that the subject was of the Russian army fighting for separatists there. He got unlucky getting caught.
I think the special forces perform some military operations. But large-scale war will not give a chance not to get caught.
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Old 01-15-2015, 09:24 AM
 
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On reading the article it appears to me that the good preacher is concerned for his people in the eastern Ukraine. Hmmm. Just who are his people?

Ukrainian Catholics. Who are "your people"?
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Old 01-15-2015, 10:57 AM
 
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Did I mention that there are idiots sitting in Kiev's government?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv7IytKRXoI

How many times Yatzenuk can be *threatening* Putin with that gas transit to Europe ( or saying that Russia HAS NO other way but via Ukraine,) and not to have the consequences?
I understand that A. Sharii is FOR the independent Ukraine, but he is talking about the same thing - about the idiots that currently rule Ukraine. So his advice to Yatzenuk to "produce gas" now himself is quite appropriate in this situation.
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Old 01-15-2015, 01:25 PM
 
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MOS.

Russia has laws on the books concerning NGOs (non governmental organizations) which churches fall under if I'm not mistaken. Religion is a very prominent point of contention between peoples and the west is very adept at using it to drive wedges between people and create conflict. Onr reason there has been little or no trouble in Russia is Putin saw western NGOs for what they were. Vessels which could be used to spread strife and war. Ukraine was full of them and has been for decades. Almost every member of the current junta in Kiev was involved in NGOs in some way.

On reading the article it appears to me that the good preacher is concerned for his people in the eastern Ukraine. Hmmm. Just who are his people?

I'd watch these people like hawks.
The US funnels money to foreign labor unions and student groups to foment protests. Usually, the precipitating condition for mass unrest is economics and the two groups are already organized. The US did so with the Polish unions in the early 80's (not to imply it's a bad thing but it's hypocritical as unions are looked down upon here). They were paying Ukrainian machinery workers a month's wage for participating in the Kiev protests. The list of organizations are in the country page under National Endowment for Democracy. It's a who's who of countries targeted for regime change or destabilization, such as China's Uyghur and Tibetan territories.
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Old 01-15-2015, 03:09 PM
 
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Oh man who will take responsibility now for that bus attack?
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Old 01-15-2015, 04:26 PM
 
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Oh man who will take responsibility now for that bus attack?
I guess it's second conspiracy theory like "Boing MH17".
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