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What is the point of even having this thread if Kremlin propogandists are just going to post comedy nonsense?
So according to "Amok", the new story from the Kremlin is as follows-
1. The invaders in Eastern Ukraine and Crimea are actually American troops pretending to be Russian troops. For some strange reason there are American troops hiding in Russia, pretending to be Russian, and invading and killing Ukranians.
2. Citizens of Ukraine are all "junta fascists"
3. U.S. "maidens" apparently gave the "junta fascists" in Ukraine citizenship
4. And these new Ukrainian citizens, in honor of the alluring "maidens" from the U.S., are now killing all the other Ukranian citizens, I guess because they want sexy Western ladies?
Amok- first rule of propoganda/lies- if you write something so ridiculous that not even braindead propogandists will believe it, you're wasting your time. No one on earth will believe that the U.S. is secretly invading Ukraine from Russia, that sexy Americans are in charge of Ukrainian citizenship procedures, and that "junta fascists" are the bloodthirsty lovers of these sexy Americans.
I think you should blame everything on green aliens from Jupiter. It's actually much more realistic than your crazy scenario.
Oh realy? Thats, will be good if your will look for your onw words, man, and do not try, to transfer mine. I know what i man saying without any idiots.
1. The US invaiders was at maidan. And this is fact.
So US entered Ukraine even BEFORE the war started. No Russia was there.
2. Crimea became part of Ukraine on legal grounds. If you too stupid to understand that twise time, i can copy proof espesialy for you there third time)
3. "junta fascists" is a Bandera's followers, against whom US army also fought in WWII. Now US and them are frineds. US acsepting fashizm.
4. Some US citizens already have government positions. Pressident of Ukraine also illegal because he have dual citizenship.
5. "junta fascists" in Kiev fighting with civilians in the East Ukraine. This topic full of proofs.
So i do not use any propoganda, i just get the proofs. And you for all time didn't get any proof.
And also you say, that there a lot of Russians army in Ukraine but.. it seems that.. they are invisible Just imagine what can do such army with the US? It is so stupid..
I can't see that it is 100% doubtfully that's exactly Pantsir-C1, it could be a regular truck with tubes. Not to mention the fact that it is not the fact that Lugansk.
And yet, during the war there was not a single case of application Pantsir C1, and had to be, because the affected area had a large, and the air force bombed Gorlovka fascist quietly with a height of 5 thousand. Km. Pantsir would not leave a trace of them. All cher a militia - manual air defense system, which confirms the story of the downed aircraft. All were shot - shot down at an altitude of less than 3 km. So the fact that militias have Pantsir very doubtful and in battle he never used. What can not be said about the armed NATO, which bombarded the church. Not to mention the fact that the movie was made in the autumn, and all this time he would have somewhere to stand. Would be more photos. Have they?
Yes, it's true, they were there, that's their photos and video on the internet a lot, but it is NOT a Russian Peonies, they are in service of Ukraine and these flowers were captured Aug. 22, 2014.
Yes, it's true, they were there, that's their photos and video on the internet a lot, but it is NOT a Russian Peonies, they are in service of Ukraine and these flowers were captured Aug. 22, 2014
Correct. This is the SPM the NAF got as a gift from the UAF last summer. Dumbassed UAF didn't understand that the thing has to be used very carefully because the thing is totally vulnerable in mobile warfare. It guzzles fuel and is slow as syrup in January. It's made for sieges of towns cities and destroying fortified positions that are surrounded with no support. It looks as if it will get some more work over the next few weeks.
movingtrustates. Has that Pantsir been geolocated? Is it in fact in NAF territory?
39°20'4.52"E 48°32'36.36"N South central Lugansk in the area of the bus station on the main road into town.
Pantsirs are lethal to the aircraft Ukraine is using. Where there's one there is undoubtedly more and it is probably part of a larger theater defense system capable of covering the entire LNR and DNR. Larger S-400 systems are probably on the border with all around coverage in a 400 km radar range. They can sit and see what the Ukies are doing as far away as Kharkov and Dneiprepetrovsk. As part of this system Pantsirs will be the "pickets" of the system, all components can talk to one another, share target information and work together to take out any threats.
I think this is why the Ukrainians aren't using air power. Anything that flies doesn't live long. Unfortunately even though the system can hit ballistic targets from where they're set up in Russia they cannot intercept them due to flight times of the missiles. If the Ukies shoot a Tochka it will be seen by the radar in it's boost phase but if a interceptor missile was launched it would not arrive before the Tochka hit it's target.
this is termobaric explosion, may be not tochka-y. But Ukranian side somebody said that they fires tochka-y today.
why don't you tell what's is under fire on this video? - this is ammunition's warehouse of terrorists (dnr) being blown up by ukrainian artillery. And, as you understand, these ammo weren't purchased from the "ammo store" (as the russian president says) or trophy from ukraine military. All this came from the neighbors.
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Just imagine what can do such army with the US? 
It is so stupid..
