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Old 02-10-2015, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Russia
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Video from Kramatorsc. I put in wrong topic) It seems that this is DNR firing ATO command center in Kramatorsk. It was plased in Airport. No more command center, no more at least one helicopter, somebody says that there about 50 rounds get down, but there also civil casualtes. Fiew rounds left their traectory.. It was too close to civil city.

From this point, was launched tochka-y to Donetsk. As I understand this is the answer. But DNR didn't not yet confirmed that they are fireing, and usually they confirm immediately. That introduces confusion. Cause in first video man says that there was fire already, befor bombing. If this do DNR this is millimeter accuracy, as from a distance of more than 50 km, this small expansion almost unreal.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEJdPFg6NSA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfPHAa4kYWI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fre5FHYJ91c


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=cc9Kh-OL4sQ


http://voicesevas.cdnvideo.ru/img/06...f6580bca34.jpg

The tail of the exhaust rockets landed in the Kramatorsk.

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Old 02-10-2015, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Greater NYC, USA
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The future of Ukraine?
Current Ukraine has no future...
Maidan has deprived Ukraine of an economic future and Poroshnko has deprived Ukraine of her political future. Lawlessness, corruption, oligarchs fighting for power.... Murder, violence, lack of jobs, inflation..
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Old 02-10-2015, 01:09 PM
 
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DNR says that it isn't them firing Kramatorsk. That they fisicaly coldn'd do this. It seems to be true, Kramatorsk too far from the front line. But then it is not clear what happened there. Provocation before the Minsk? Why, then, the airport, not the city?
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Old 02-10-2015, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Finland
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Our neighbours who haven't been at war in 200 years must go abroad to fight:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9d0ZoOCcAAeprx.jpg

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Old 02-10-2015, 02:29 PM
 
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I do not want to beat ahead of the engine, but:

Media reported on the harmonization of the ceasefire in the Donbass.

Lenta.ru:
(Rus)

Maybe it be real peace. I hope, at least.
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Old 02-10-2015, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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That being said I see what is going on here. I know what happened last winter in Kiev. I know the history of that part of the world and the history of my own country, America.

You don't deserve to be an American!
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Old 02-10-2015, 04:52 PM
 
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so why is russia sending 18-20 year old "kids" to war?
What age do you think people are in the military?

Most people join when they are in that age group, I did, almost everyone I know that was in the military did.

The US sends "kids" (they are actually adults) this age to war, take a look at some Iraq and Afghanistan war stats if you want.

That age group is the primary target for military recruiters.
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Old 02-10-2015, 05:05 PM
 
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This is just sickening. Arresting the people speaking out against the draft. Gotta love that freedom and liberty!!! This is Orwellian.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxEQg02ogUI#t=74

This tells me they're desperate and you have to ask the question what good are these men going to be on the battlefield? On top of that with the new law stating that officers are allowed to shoot disobedient soldiers I have to ask if the likes of Nazi Guard and Azov going be behind these guys with machine guns at the front?

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You don't deserve to be an American!
You don't know what it is to be one.
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Old 02-10-2015, 05:31 PM
 
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I wonder if what hit in Kramatorsk wasn't a Smerch attack. The HE warheads for that system can hit targets as far away as 90km. The southern suburbs of Donetsk are only 81km from the airbase, Gorlivka is even closer. The strike was spread out pretty good so that tells me it was most likely a long range strike. They knew right where to hit too, the aircraft parking area.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtFCsWeO1Lc

It's said artillery is the king of the battlefield and Russians are the king of artillery.
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Old 02-10-2015, 05:35 PM
 
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Maidan has deprived Ukraine of an economic future and Poroshnko has deprived Ukraine of her political future. Lawlessness, corruption, oligarchs fighting for power.... Murder, violence, lack of jobs, inflation..
What does everyone think the junta in Kiev is going to get for this? Money, pride?
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