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Ukraine's borders have not been very stable historically. Soviet Union had lots' of trade between the states, but when Soviet union Run out of money to subsidize the states Ukraine was one of the first to leave the Union. Today Ukraine is one the most corrupt and poor country in Europe.
I think the population of Ukraine is 146 million today, it has been in the decline ever since Soviet Union.
I do not buy those cries. Ukrainian citizens that live in Donbas region are being killed and their property destroyed, the people who are doing the killing are wearing Ukrainian flags and they are saying that they are fighting Russian insurgents.
If you live in Ukraine and see Poroshenko as a dictator, you become a "volunteer unit" not obeying Kiev.
If Russia is protecting it's interests in Ukraine, it's nothing that US would not have done had the situation been reversed.
I mean what happens if Ukrain's army puts it's arms down and goes home?
basically: Ukraine had a coupe, the new leadership is waging a civil war designed to kill off the population of Ukraine that sympotises with Russia and it's all Putin's fault. This is what you guys are telling me!
Russian Ukrainian border has visa free tourism, it's not that difficult for a private citizen to cross that border. Can private Russian citizen, outraged by the news cross the border to help the separatists ?
Can Putin help arm and supply the separatists? (US has never done the same ?)
Again, why is Ukrainian army using heavy artillery on their own cities targeting buildings, hospitals, kindergartens? There is a separatist with an Ak-47 hiding there.
I am not saying that Putin is the messiah, but like I said, Poroshenko does not belong in the free world.
I am not in any way condone Poroshenko I wish victory Donetsk.. and Merkel Because she with Putin still has a chance to stop the carnage, but not that big. US will not stop.
If you leave Poroshenko and the United States - you know what will happen. All look around and ask - why did this happen? And who gave such orders? Minghui people will not welcome the EU also.
And Putin.. will not intervene, it will only supply food, clothing, generators. If he put the weapon - will not be better. If Donbass goes on, under attack will not only Horlovka, which has almost ceased to exist, Makiyivka and others, under attack will be the whole of Ukraine. For Russia, the best option if Europe turn away from US, and will turn to Russia. Then Merkel can combine with France and Russia to remove Poroshenko. The beginning of this has already been made. There are some things in the US and the EU, hinting at such changes.
And about the DNR in the city .. And where would they be? If the army pressed them to Donetsk? leave Donetsk? Now, by the way, Army DNR came out from Donetsk and stands in front of it, but the bombardments of civil areas have not stopped. There are a lot of video, where Ukrainian army firing civil areas where there are no military.
Even if the war ends, there is still the problem of salvaging Ukraine's civil society. A new generation untainted by oligarchy and Communist bureaucracy needs to come to power.
I don't ready to speak about USSR in English
I still do a lot of mistakes in words and Google Translate kosyachit sometimes so that it would be better kept it silent
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Originally Posted by Miserere
Russian economy is marching to another collapse, as Putin tries to maintain the fiction of a not sustainable "New USSR".
That's not it. Russia makes an excellent high-tech goods, but because at the time of development of Russian market of consumer goods was already occupied, even in Russia, these products .. specific.
Hard to say, there is 2 EFT's one can invest in RUSL and RUSS. One if you believe that Russian economy will grow and the other if you belie that Russian economy will colapse. I am satying away from it for now.
Even if the war ends, there is still the problem of salvaging Ukraine's civil society. A new generation untainted by oligarchy and Communist bureaucracy needs to come to power.
No news outlet that I know of is telling the truth. Who sells more propaganda on the subject, CNN or RT is up to your individual religious beliefs, but rest assured none tell the whole truth.
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To find out what is really happening in Ukraine, I have to ask people that are there. News, and I do monitor RT, CNN and BBC on the subject of Ukraine, the truth is somewhere in between.
But I am concerned, my constitution guarantees me a free media, so when I read lies on CNN, I get really sad.
What is happening now and what is said in the Donetsk and Lugansk close to Russia's position on this issue, that is I can say. What speak RT I do not know, because I do not look it.
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I wish victory Donetsk.. and Merkel 
