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Москва, и град Петров, и Константинов град —
Вот царства русского заветные столицы...
Но где предел ему? и где его границы —
На север, на восток, на юг и на закат?
Грядущим временам судьбы их обличат...
Семь внутренних морей и семь великих рек...
От Нила до Невы, от Эльбы до Китая,
От Волги по Евфрат, от Ганга до Дуная...
Вот царство русское... и не прейдет вовек, Как то провидел Дух и Даниил предрек.
Moscow, and the city of Peter, and Konstantinov hail
- Here is the kingdom cherished Russian capital …
But where is the limit of it? and where its boundaries
- To the north, east, south and sunset?
Coming their fate expose …
Seven internal seas and seven great rivers …
From the Nile to the Neva, from the Elbe to China,
From the Volga to the Euphrates, from the Ganges to the Danube …
That's the realm of Russian … and pass away forever,
As that foresaw the Spirit and Daniel predicted. Fyodor Tyutchev
1848
Yes, the West has just bombed a major European city (Berlgrad) and killing hundreds of civilians.
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Originally Posted by Muscovite
There was a civil war there. Not here. Conflicts of different groups, but not a civil war.
Even in Transnistria the conflict was more large scale and so our interference was more justified. Though I hope that it's all more calmed down in the last decades and they'll find a well-balanced decision.
I understand the strategic and historical importance of the naval base for us. That's why I feel contradictory.
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Originally Posted by John-UK
Just bombed Belgrade? Are you sure? The 1999 NATO attacks were not to steal land.
I am not sure how it was reported in Russia but there was a Civil War going on in the former Yugoslavia. Basically it was the Serbs against every one else. The different republics starting breaking away- starting with Slovenia and ending with Montenegro I think. Anyway there was a lot of atrocities going on all sides but the Serbs seemed to be the worst.
Oh, then sure enough you don't steal power by force, do you?
There are better solutions than organizing the military overthrowing of the government, shouldn't we say?
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That is what Hitler did. Get it!
Hitler did many other things as well - he is not quite remembered in history for "stealing the land," so no sense in comparison here.
There was a civil war there. Not here. Conflicts of different groups, but not a civil war.
Even in Transnistria the conflict was more large scale and so our interference was more justified. Though I hope that it's all more calmed down in the last decades and they'll find a well-balanced decision.
I understand the strategic and historical importance of the naval base for us. That's why I feel contradictory.
The so called "Transnistria" conflict is also of your own making since you added land to Moldova that never belonged to it before, and now, knowing the consequences of Moldovan reuninfication with its neighbor, sought to prevent that reuninfication. Stop the lies.
Yes, NASA cooperated with Russia even during the Cold War. Science should stand above politics.
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