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Stop being obtuse to the situation and you would know why; people were there long before Ukraine was a country, this is simply an extension of the USSR breaking apart, in which the break up was along lines drawn by people like Stalin; no real reason for them, no different than colonial powers that drew lines in Africa and the ME.
But why now? Why not in 1991? Or 1996, 1999, 2004, 2010, 2012? Why today?
After two revolts, a country near near bankruptcy, and a declining quality of life; people are probably sick of being a part of it. As I stated before, a few of my close relatives live in Ukraine, I have seen their quality of lfie decline since they moved their in the 90's, decline even more since the Orange Revolt.
Ukraine has not progressed at all compared to Russia. Blame numerous factors, but on the individual level, they have not progressed and many people are rather sick of it, better to tag along with a more successful state if they can; Ukraine is all in all, a failed state.
The new gov sure as heck has not done anything to promote unity, they have basically ostracized a good portion of their population, and this is not along ethnic lines at all, but along political lines though the new gov and media are trying to play it out like it is an ethnic issue (remember, Yanukovoch won a fair election, which would have been impossible if the vote was along ethnic lines).
An hour ago, police units who were brought from the neighboring region in Kharkiv has used stun grenades against protesters. Violence will continue in other cities. I think people will invite Putin for help.
There's really only one: oil. Russia has it; Ukraine doesn't.
Wrong. What makes big difference here, is that Ukraine hasn't been independent self-sufficient country to begin with. Russia was and still is. This factor comes primarily, oil factor comes secondary.
It's my choice. And it's the choice of people of my city. The Kiev government and its supporters are foreign to the us. People of Russia is closer than the people in West of Ukraine.
I write primarily about cultural values. Material benefit and things like that, it is important but I don't need it now.
People like you really disturb me.... Russia just committed the first annexation in Europe since World War II and if memory serves the first in the world since Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1991, in the name of "protecting" a minority in a country where it has dominated the majority for hundreds of years. All this "protection" is doing is encouraging Baltic governments to consider kicking out Russians so Russia doesn't "allow self-determination", because apparently self-determination only matters if the people involved are Russian, not Chechen or various other minorities in Russia. You were born on the wrong side of an international boundary like the Germans/Austrians in South Tryol, Italy or the Somalis in Kenya. There is nothing unique about your situation at all and hopefully Putin won't risk total nuclear annihilation over the annexation of Eastern Ukraine or "a decentralized state like Bosnia and Herzegovina", which is really rich coming from Russia...one of the most centralized nations on the planet. All they want that for is chipping Ukrainian control. Ukraine has already lost territory, they will fight for the rest of it, which other than Crimea is MINORITY RUSSIAN.
How do those Ukrainian peoples not have the right to self-determination but you do?!
Move to Russia or give up. By the way, unconstitutional coups sometimes happen when orders are given to shoot protesters in European countries...it happened in Eastern Europe in 1989-1990 too but the leader of Russia wasn't KGB scum and could not or would not hold power by force nor let dictators in its satellites.
Last edited by Rain N' Hail; 04-07-2014 at 10:54 PM..
Because military unconstitutional coup staged today.
What? Where? How? By whom?
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