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Old 06-24-2020, 10:14 PM
DKM
 
Location: California
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This is not a great article, this is stupid propaganda. If you love this, then you don’t understand anything about Russia.
How do you know if you did not read it? Or you read it in 2 minutes?
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Old 06-24-2020, 11:11 PM
 
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How do you know if you did not read it? Or you read it in 2 minutes?
I know, even if I have no clue what the article is about. If you liked it - it is obviously a propaganda article.
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Old 06-24-2020, 11:21 PM
 
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How do you know if you did not read it? Or you read it in 2 minutes?

I think it takes only 2 minutes to come to this particular line -


"They should also resist Putin’s attempts to cut off his population from the outside world and speak directly to the Russian people about the benefits of working together and the price they have paid for Putin’s hard turn away from liberalism"

and any Russian in the right mind will not "have any strength" to go any further.


DKM, are you even aware that the word "liberalism" ( well, slightly tweaked) serves practically as an expletive in Russian?
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Old 06-24-2020, 11:23 PM
 
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So is Russia doing fairly well these days? How is it especially in regards to its economy?
Depends who you are comparing to.
Russia production:


USA production:


Germany production:


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Japan production:
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Old 06-24-2020, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Russia
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How do you know if you did not read it? Or you read it in 2 minutes?
I read it. As Maksim said, this article is a little more than completely made up of speculation, lies and propaganda. The United States to come to terms with the idea that the methods of coercion in Russia will not be able to change anything, whether Putin or someone else is in power.

If earlier the glossy image of America's, which was poured into our brains through Hollywood and other media, still somehow worked and people poured from Russia to the United States, then in the light of current events taking place in the United States and in the world, the myth of America's greatness collapsed. And now very few people are want to move to the United States. And some even go back to Russia. Actions of US, on the contrary, unite the people around Putin. Yes, there are many people who do not support him, but looking at the actions and statements of the United States in relation to Russia, they choose the lesser of two evils. And only all sorts of pseudo-liberals are ready to sell their native mother, but to curry favor with America.
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Old 06-24-2020, 11:40 PM
 
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I read it. As Maksim said, this article is a little more than completely made up of speculation, lies and propaganda. The United States to come to terms with the idea that the methods of coercion in Russia will not be able to change anything, whether Putin or someone else is in power.

If earlier the glossy image of America's, which was poured into our brains through Hollywood and other media, still somehow worked and people poured from Russia to the United States, then in the light of current events taking place in the United States and in the world, the myth of America's greatness collapsed. And now very few people are want to move to the United States. And some even go back to Russia. Actions of US, on the contrary, unite the people around Putin. Yes, there are many people who do not support him, but looking at the actions and statements of the United States in relation to Russia, they choose the lesser of two evils. And only all sorts of pseudo-liberals are ready to sell their native mother, but to curry favor with America.

Actually, this would be me.
NORMALLY I should be in the "liberals" camp.

But by some miracle, I am not.
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Old 06-24-2020, 11:50 PM
 
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Actually, this would be me.
NORMALLY I should be in the "liberals" camp.

But by some miracle, I am not.
That's because you probably can do something useful, unlike pseudo libs.
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Old 06-25-2020, 12:04 AM
 
Location: Russia
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Actually, this would be me.
NORMALLY I should be in the "liberals" camp.

But by some miracle, I am not.
Well, to be like our "liberal" you must believe that Russia should look like this:



or in the worst case like this:



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Old 06-25-2020, 12:15 AM
 
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That's... too advanced for my understanding...
(Both of them)
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Old 06-25-2020, 12:16 AM
 
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That's because you probably can do something useful, unlike pseudo libs.

To be honest I don't feel particularly useful, other than lecturing DKM here)))
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