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Maxim, how *dangerous* is Navalny for today's authorities ( particularly if to take in consideration how many teenagers participated in the latest protest)?
I think he may be quite dangerous. A small group of people can topple dynasties and entire countries if the conditions are right. Or worse yet look at history and the White Armies after the first world war in Russia and consider what Max said in this post.
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Maksim_Frolov Look. You want me to quit my job, my family, my child, to take up arms and go to overthrow the authorities. OK. What will be better in a new government? Nothing. Therefore, I will not change anyone by forcible means. And if someone does this and this threatens the well-being of my family, I and other gloomy men will hang all these revolutionaries, if necessary.
There is the English translation from the article he posted.
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Yesterday it became irrevocably unmistakably clear that the power is in our toothless, it has no claws, and by and large it is not afraid of no one. Because it is not fierce
Two furious group look at each other through the police, and the hatred grows stronger. And then there's and Ukraine added fuel to the fire.
The battle can not be avoided, and the government will be powerless to prevent the battle.
Here is how I see the situation.
It takes a small spark to begin a conflagration. It seems there are 2 sides to this I don't know much about.
I think he may be quite dangerous. A small group of people can topple dynasties and entire countries if the conditions are right. Or worse yet look at history and the White Armies after the first world war in Russia and consider what Max said in this post.
No, I don't consider HIM to be dangerous.
To make the long story short, the current power in Russia is of the "right" nature. That's why the "right-wing politics" are not really in demand in Russia , and Navalny represents the "right wing." That's why he is still free, representing the "opposition" to Putin. While for example Sergey Udaltsov ( who is ultra-left) is still in prison.
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There is the English translation from the article he posted.
I'd be curious to see it, because Limonov operates in his article by social/political terms that are familiar only to Russians.
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It takes a small spark to begin a conflagration. It seems there are 2 sides to this I don't know much about.
There are really more sides to it ( more participants involved,) and I do not necessarily agree with the way he identifies the conflicting forces. And no, it would be difficult for you to know what he is talking about, as it would be difficult for non-Americans to identify the "boot-strappers," the "Tea Party" ppl, (Trump's electorate overall) and the "libs", since they all sound differently, obviously, and profess different beliefs, as much as Russian "vatnik" and Russian "liberals" for example.
Maxim, how *dangerous* is Navalny for today's authorities ( particularly if to take in consideration how many teenagers participated in the latest protest)?
Not so much, hence - the half-arsed reaction from OMON I think.
Yes, I also think that the police can use force. Now they just play in public, they do not want excessive noise in the media. But if required, the reaction will be very tough.
But teenagers are a real problem. They think they can overthrow bad power, but they do not realize that this will lead to a disturbance (smyta/смута). Who will pay for a new civil war(a new smyta)? They will not pay. They will sit in comfortable offices in Moscow and earn a good salary. Russia will pay. New decline in the population, new empty villages, new drop in the quality of life and new killed soldiers in Chechnya, Dagestan and Ingushetia. For the sake of what all this? For their sneakers and one-eyed ducks?
Morons, f**k...(с)Lavrov
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But anyway, saw this today and couldn't stop laughing;
Anybody heard about the nationwide protests yesterday, against Putin and corruption? Front page of the NY Times yesterday...
Against Putin? It was against corruption, and the Medvedev fiasco which set it off. Other than that, the protests had the usual mix bag of communist, nationalist, (ok, I can give you the anti-Putin thing as these two groups are against) and whatever other group advocates there.
Corruption over in that part of the world is not about doing away with it, it is about competing parties trying to get a larger piece of the action.
Against Putin? It was against corruption, and the Medvedev fiasco which set it off. Other than that, the protests had the usual mix bag of communist, nationalist, (ok, I can give you the anti-Putin thing as these two groups are against) and whatever other group advocates there.
Corruption over in that part of the world is not about doing away with it, it is about competing parties trying to get a larger piece of the action.
...and as I've said many times before, I blame Clintons for this BS. Bill sure facilitated A LOT of today's lawlessness and corruption in Russia, while Hillary was trying to "finish the job" her DH started back then and didn't accomplish the way he intended.
So it is what it is today - in terms of internal Russian politics, as much as the situation on international scene.
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