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Old 11-13-2019, 10:20 AM
 
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In my opinion, there is no revisionism in Russia. Yes, some moments of history are revised from today's point of view, ideological husks are thrown off from some, new circumstances are opened at some moments, but to say that the whole history of Russia is just some kind of Kremlin propaganda is complete stupidity. All the basic principles and milestones of Russian history are still in place. This is Gagarin’s flight and the defeat of fascism in WW2 and all the rest. As for Rezun (Suvorov), no one takes him seriously in Russia for a long time, all his books have long been taken apart and proved a hundred times that they have not a bit of truth in them and they are read just like comics. And it’s clear to the fool that all these books are simply custom-made material from Western intelligence agencies, aimed specifically at Western audiences. Therefore, as a Russian-speaking reader will find 1000 inconsistencies of his data with the data of other Russian-language sources. In my opinion, all this “historical revisionism” is just the inventions of our liberals and Russophobes and nothing more than an attempt to PR against the background of today's Russophobia. And it’s just that it’s now a fashionable trend- “Russia must pay and repent, pay and repent”.
This is good. We eg here are, time after time engaged somewhat in revision of history, primarily in popular science, in wikipedia, with the aim of reducing common points of contact with the Soviet era and the big eastern neighbor. But it's off-topic, I'm not talking about it anymore although I personally would be happier if there was less Russophobia and our relationship with our eastern neighbor was better. However, Suvorov seem to be read in the former Soviet Russian vassal republics and states. But let his readers believe in his fiction if they will.
I also support the widespread and generally accepted approach to history. That seems a lot more real because Suvorov's views are not supported by an absolute majority of authors, nor by the authors of the West. (Anyone who wants to, of course, can believe all kind nonsense or conspiracy theories, even if Addie Hitler lived somewhere in Latin America in the 50s and used to drank Bavarian beer in a local tavern. And so that other visitors to the tavern would unmistakably recognize him as Hitler he was wearing even exactly the same mustache as on official portraits.)
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Old 11-13-2019, 05:54 PM
 
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The rail link to Crimea is almost finished. First train is scheduled for Dec 23, St Petersburg to Semiferopol.

https://tass.com/world/1088464

What's Ukraine going to do about it? Beat up some Crimeans trying to visit family in Ukraine for Christmas? Shut down the boder over the holidays?
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Old 11-13-2019, 09:43 PM
 
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In my opinion, there is no revisionism in Russia. Yes, some moments of history are revised from today's point of view, ideological husks are thrown off from some, new circumstances are opened at some moments, but to say that the whole history of Russia is just some kind of Kremlin propaganda is complete stupidity. All the basic principles and milestones of Russian history are still in place. This is Gagarin’s flight and the defeat of fascism in WW2 and all the rest. As for Rezun (Suvorov), no one takes him seriously in Russia for a long time, all his books have long been taken apart and proved a hundred times that they have not a bit of truth in them and they are read just like comics. And it’s clear to the fool that all these books are simply custom-made material from Western intelligence agencies, aimed specifically at Western audiences. Therefore, as a Russian-speaking reader will find 1000 inconsistencies of his data with the data of other Russian-language sources. In my opinion, all this “historical revisionism” is just the inventions of our liberals and Russophobes and nothing more than an attempt to PR against the background of today's Russophobia. And it’s just that it’s now a fashionable trend- “Russia must pay and repent, pay and repent”.

Innit true?

Yes, that's what it's all about, all these "revisions" ( or rather the attempt of them.)
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Old 11-15-2019, 01:06 AM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcHd2Y4owpw
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Old 11-17-2019, 02:06 PM
 
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Alexandra Trusova. Skating since she was 4, if not before she could walk.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGkA0z-n51A

Veronika Zhilena. 10 years old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGkA0z-n51A

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Old 11-17-2019, 09:19 PM
 
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Alexandra Trusova. Skating since she was 4, if not before she could walk.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGkA0z-n51A

Veronika Zhilena. 10 years old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGkA0z-n51A

I checked the other skater out (Veronika Zhilina)
If she is only 10 now - then yes, definitely yet another star is rising on horizon))
( Provided she won't lack consistency)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0tpYJavjIY
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Old 11-17-2019, 10:32 PM
 
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Oh my...
I came across the juniors competition - these 7-11 years old boys are not far behind.


A LOT of potential there))




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za2RhEYZ4hE


(This show looks commercialized, the kids introduce themselves first, talk about "stuff they do/like" so the skating here starts at 1:05.)




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOoJEIVgJic&t=166s



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITDih6__Gdk




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBywahl5orI
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Old 11-18-2019, 05:59 PM
 
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I wonder what it takes to build a legacy like Russia has in this sport, especially these last couple of decades. There's a lot of talented trainiers involved along with some great institutions. I've seen kids as young as 3 on the ice in Russia. Russia seems to dominate in this sport. Many others come close though but they mostly fall short.
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Old 11-18-2019, 08:30 PM
 
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Figure skating and hockey have always been the main sports destinations in the USSR and Russia and have significant support. And of course, gymnastics and synchronized swimming. In these species, we almost always held the lead.
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Old 11-18-2019, 10:53 PM
 
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I wonder what it takes to build a legacy like Russia has in this sport, especially these last couple of decades. There's a lot of talented trainiers involved along with some great institutions. I've seen kids as young as 3 on the ice in Russia. Russia seems to dominate in this sport. Many others come close though but they mostly fall short.

Oh, it all goes back to the great ballet school of course.
But other than that, what makes Russians great ice skate dancers, is that (as much as in ballet) they are encouraged from the young age to know the STORY behind their each and every move, the story that they are about to tell by their dance. Which again is only natural too, because of the great THEATER tradition in Russia. (After all the roots of Russian culture go deep into the "old Europe" (he-he,) and that's where Russian "middle class" ( or rather "intelligentsia") still is, frozen in time, no matter how much americanization is pushed upon it lately.)

And in this particular "Ice Age" project for children, that's what their trainers ( all successful figure-skaters themselves in the past ,) are trying to teach these kids.



This is a good example of it - one of the youngest participants yet again, but definitely a future crowd pleaser ( provided he will nail the technical part. But this is most likely, since this little guy is only 9.)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaWR9Q35F4Y



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRBJXwR-Hsk&t=333s



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bu2ZzDsv58


(and this is yet another example of the champion of this competition, who was playing the abandoned doll in his winning presentation in my previous post. )


(Skating starts at 1:50)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4V_tI_YZGU&t=349s

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