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Old 01-28-2016, 08:50 AM
 
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If you did not have a ton of people of other ethnicities who do not obey the law then there was no need for a pepper spray. But with he swarms of refugees and asylum seekers ( who are predominantly healthy young men) now flooding Europe I would be more concerned about my safety if I were a woman than the stupid law on pepper spray.

If I were there I would gladly supply it to my daughter and pay the fine if she is caught. Better that to happen than her getting raped.
If only Denmark would take a leaf out of South Carolina's book, and allow its citizens to arm themselves. Then maybe Denmark would become as safe as South Carolina.
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Old 01-28-2016, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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I doubt that.
You really think that a rapist doesn't get punished? What makes you think so besides being polemic?
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Old 01-28-2016, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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If you did not have a ton of people of other ethnicities who do not obey the law then there was no need for a pepper spray. But with he swarms of refugees and asylum seekers ( who are predominantly healthy young men) now flooding Europe I would be more concerned about my safety if I were a woman than the stupid law on pepper spray.

If I were there I would gladly supply it to my daughter and pay the fine if she is caught. Better that to happen than her getting raped.
In all my time working for an Austrian criminal court I've never seen someone, who never got convicted for the same crime before, paying a fine for carrying a pepper spray. I doubt that the Danish courts will be more harsh on her.
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Old 01-28-2016, 08:58 AM
 
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So what? She broke the law and now a court will decide if she will get punished for it. Just like the guy who wanted to rape her will certainly get punished.

It's called "the rule of law".
how very submissive of you
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Old 01-28-2016, 09:02 AM
 
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I think there is a basic misunderstanding surrounding the case. The girl doesn't get punished because she defended herself.

She was arrested/questioned for carrying an illegal weapon, which is completely unrelated to the act of self-defense.
aww pepper spray is so awful. how inhumane to temporarily blind someone who's trying to rape or murder you.
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Old 01-28-2016, 09:06 AM
 
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If only Denmark would take a leaf out of South Carolina's book, and allow its citizens to arm themselves. Then maybe Denmark would become as safe as South Carolina.
Stupid non-sequitur. Also wrong, as South Carolina isn't "unsafe", it has a high gun-related murder rate but the U.S. overall doesn't have higher crime than Western Europe.
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Old 01-28-2016, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Germany
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You really think that a rapist doesn't get punished? What makes you think so besides being polemic?
You're from Austria? You probably heard of "Intensivtäter" juvenile delinquents most of them Muslims who commited dozen of crimes and never really get punished, I doubt that Denmark deals more adequate with them than Germany does (or Austria?), I would bet that the man who tried to rape the girl will not spend one night in prison. When you think that a suspended sentence of let's say one or two years is the appropriate punishment for rape you might see it differently.
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Old 01-28-2016, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Finland
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If you did not have a ton of people of other ethnicities who do not obey the law then there was no need for a pepper spray. But with he swarms of refugees and asylum seekers ( who are predominantly healthy young men) now flooding Europe I would be more concerned about my safety if I were a woman than the stupid law on pepper spray.

If I were there I would gladly supply it to my daughter and pay the fine if she is caught. Better that to happen than her getting raped.
The security situation in Europe hasn't been altered due to the refugee crisis. Europe is as safe as it used to be.
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Old 01-28-2016, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Starting a walkabout
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The security situation in Europe hasn't been altered due to the refugee crisis. Europe is as safe as it used to be.
Ariete, I initially thought that this was a tongue in cheek comment, but then I said ...naaw, it isn't.

You must have missed all other threads in the Europe section on the New Year rape in Cologne and the Swedish asylum worker being killed. Or maybe they occurred at the same frequency before this refugee crisis
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Old 01-28-2016, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Starting a walkabout
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I think there is a basic misunderstanding surrounding the case. The girl doesn't get punished because she defended herself.

She was arrested/questioned for carrying an illegal weapon, which is completely unrelated to the act of self-defense.
How can she defend herself from rape if she did not carry the pepper spray. And if she had to carry it, she might get questioned and arrested for carrying a weapon.

I cannot fathom how you could think they were unrelated.
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