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Old 01-23-2022, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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Article link from November 2020

Here are some answers as to why the sale of the News and Record property has been slow. It appears the site has contamination in the ground from previous owners before the News and Record was built in the 1970s. There were gas stations there. Because of that the site is considered as a brownfield and there is financial help for developers in this case. Mayor Nancy Vaughn states she would like to see a developer come in and build something that would change the skyline. She states there is still demand for quality office space. DGI president Zack Matheny said he gets calls from interested developers all the time and most are looking to turn the property into a multi use development involving a convention center and even a hotel. He has different ideas. Matheny would like to see something like a riverwalk with outparcels that can be sold. (Think San Antonio and Oklahoma City ) Something similar to the artificial river feature of American Tobacco in Durham but 10 times longer. I'd like to see a combination of the two. Maybe a convention center/hotel mixed with residential and office along with the riverwalk with out parcels for residential, retail and restaurants. Also an outdoor performance space that could be utilized as one of the stages for the North Carolina Folk Festival and other events. The riverwalk could also cross under East Market Street through the vacant Lincoln Financial parking lot which could get developed, under Friendly Ave and end at Lebauer Park. That would require street closing to build the bridges though. But if the city wants this property to get purchased anytime soon the owners need to clean up the property so that it is more shovel ready.

https://triad-city-beat.com/nr-building/?amp

The bottom yellow outline property is the News and Record site, the upper yellow outlined area is the a Lincoln Financial owned parking lot which could get redeveloped. The blue represents the path of the riverwalk and the red is the Westin and city parking deck.


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Old 02-02-2022, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Any updates?
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Old 02-03-2022, 11:13 PM
 
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Looks like some updates on the east market projects https://greensboro.com/news/local/ed...home-top-story
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Old 02-10-2022, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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More on the new owners of First National Bank Field (Temerity Baseball). They plan to add a year round restaurant at the ballpark that will be open before the end of the year and the ballpark will be a year round venue hosting other events such as concerts weddings etc. In addition they will add a brewery at the ballpark and explore other development such as residential housing. Similar to what they are doing in Kannapolis with the 7-story apartments and brewery overlooking the field. Hopefully they build something around 10-stories at our stadium.



The article also mentions Carroll Ballpark South which is still to include a 12-story AC Hotel, 20-story office tower, over 280 units of 6 and 7 story apartments, conference space, retail and in addition something new I haven't heard before...a small grocery store.



https://www.bizjournals.com/triad/ne...dium-sold.html

Rendering of the apartments and brewery Temerity Baseball has planned for the ballpark in Kannapolis. Expect something similar and potentially larger for First National Bank Field. In 5 years or so the ballpark area will be unrecognizable, highly dense with a number of tall buildings. With the future and potential developments in and around the ballpark, First National Bank Field will be seeing a similar amount of high density development going up around Durham Bulls Athletic Field. The state's two most developed ballparks.



Break down of developments and future developments around First National Bank Field

1 Lomax Properties - Greenway at Fisher Park Apartments - COMPLETED

2 Lomax Properties - Greenway at Stadium Park Apartments - COMPLETED

3 Carroll Companies - Carroll at Bellemeade Apartments / Hyatt Place Hotel - COMPLETED

4 Front Street Capital - 9- story office building (Project Slugger) - COMPLETED

5 Carroll Companies - Carroll Ballpark South (12-story AC Hotel, 20-story office tower, 280 apartments, retail, grocery store) - PLANNED / SOON UNDER CONSTRUCTION

6 Temerity Baseball - restaurant, brewery and high density multi-family housing. - PROPOSED

Once everything is completed there will be over 1,000 apartments directly around the ballpark. That's about 2,000 to 3,000 residents just around the ballpark itself.

In addition there are other individual establishments that have opened near the ballpark including a number of restaurants, breweries and an organic grocery store.

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Old 02-11-2022, 12:43 PM
 
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More on the new owners of First National Bank Field (Temerity Baseball). They plan to add a year round restaurant at the ballpark that will be open before the end of the year and the ballpark will be a year round venue hosting other events such as concerts weddings etc. In addition they will add a brewery at the ballpark and explore other development such as residential housing. Similar to what they are doing in Kannapolis with the 7-story apartments and brewery overlooking the field. Hopefully they build something around 10-stories at our stadium.



The article also mentions Carroll Ballpark South which is still to include a 12-story AC Hotel, 20-story office tower, over 280 units of 6 and 7 story apartments, conference space, retail and in addition something new I haven't heard before...a small grocery store.



https://www.bizjournals.com/triad/ne...dium-sold.html

Rendering of the apartments and brewery Temerity Baseball has planned for the ballpark in Kannapolis. Expect something similar and potentially larger for First National Bank Field. In 5 years or so the ballpark area will be unrecognizable, highly dense with a number of tall buildings. With the future and potential developments in and around the ballpark, First National Bank Field will be seeing a similar amount of high density development going up around Durham Bulls Athletic Field. The state's two most developed ballparks.



Break down of developments and future developments around First National Bank Field

1 Lomax Properties - Greenway at Fisher Park Apartments - COMPLETED

2 Lomax Properties - Greenway at Stadium Park Apartments - COMPLETED

3 Carroll Companies - Carroll at Bellemeade Apartments / Hyatt Place Hotel - COMPLETED

4 Front Street Capital - 9- story office building (Project Slugger) - COMPLETED

5 Carroll Companies - Carroll Ballpark South (12-story AC Hotel, 20-story office tower, 280 apartments, retail, grocery store) - PLANNED / SOON UNDER CONSTRUCTION

6 Temerity Baseball - restaurant, brewery and high density multi-family housing. - PROPOSED

Once everything is completed there will be over 1,000 apartments directly around the ballpark. That's about 2,000 to 3,000 residents just around the ballpark itself.

In addition there are other individual establishments that have opened near the ballpark including a number of restaurants, breweries and an organic grocery store.
I like the idea of having a restaurant and brewery at the ballpark. Beer options at FNB Field are kind of slim compared to Winston-Salem and High Point. And the area immediately around the stadium needs more. Really pulling for a Yardhouse or something similar.

As for residential, units are what matter. Stories do not. A well designed 8 story building with 120 units is better than a 10 story building with 100.
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Old 02-11-2022, 11:54 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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In 5 years or so the ballpark area will be unrecognizable, highly dense with a number of tall buildings. With the future and potential developments in and around the ballpark, First National Bank Field will be seeing a similar amount of high density development going up around Durham Bulls Athletic Field. The state's two most developed ballparks.
No. I disagree. Durham is blowing past Greensboro.
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Old 02-12-2022, 06:06 PM
 
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https://www.greensboro-nc.gov/home/s...98224184225911 So the Redevelopment Commision has finally pushed a plan for the South Elm redevelopment to the city council and it's... *drum roll* a small single story suburban grocery store surrounded by surface parking lots. This is so crappy it feels like it should be a joke. lmao I can't believe it took them 17 years and millions of dollars to propose this. Is it possible for them to be fired?
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Old 02-12-2022, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Greensboro
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https://www.greensboro-nc.gov/home/s...98224184225911 So the Redevelopment Commision has finally pushed a plan for the South Elm redevelopment to the city council and it's... *drum roll* a small single story suburban grocery store surrounded by surface parking lots. This is so crappy it feels like it should be a joke. lmao I can't believe it took them 17 years and millions of dollars to propose this. Is it possible for them to be fired?
I’m all for a grocery store at this location. But this is a real opportunity to extend the walkability of S. Elm street and 120 surface parking spaces seems like it would kill any hope of that. Lidl is building apartments on top of their stores in Europe. Very doubtful we’ll see anything unique here. But a downtown grocery store is something.
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Old 02-12-2022, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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While I'm excited that a Lidl grocery store is coming to downtown Greensboro, that part is huge, but I must admit the layout is crappy. Why not build something like the Publix in midtown where the store sits on the parking, hell why even need parking since a parking deck is going to be built across the street? This doesn't even fit in well with Union Square across the street. The drawings do say concept drawings so maybe this design layout will change. There is some resistance on city council and from the mayor after doing a little online research. I say threaten to kill this until Lidl comes up with a better plan. I really want to see Lidl downtown but this needs to be a mixed-use project and not a suburban style grocery store with suburban surface lot parking. I hope this works out with a different design because I live downtown within walking distance and I'd love to be able to walk to the grocery store.

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Old 02-12-2022, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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Rhino Times. Maybe with enough push back, a developer could get involved and work with Lidl to build something more appropriate. You would think Lidl would prefer a plan with high density residential above its store or around it in a mixed-use development. Having 200 plus apartments at its front door means business for Lidl. Every resident would probably shop there



https://www.rhinotimes.com/featured-...re-questioned/

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