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Old 11-23-2021, 03:55 PM
 
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The Big 10 wouldn't want NC State.... 1) it isn't an AAU school and 2) if it has Duke and UNC.... no need to add another NC school. The ACC schools that are a part of the AAU are Duke, UNC, UVA, Georgia Tech, and Pitt. Pitt doesn't add a new market, so the Big 10 wouldn't have any use for them... so Duke, UVA, UNC, and Ga Tech would be the top options... unless they go against an unwritten policy and invite a ND a non-AAU school.
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Old 11-23-2021, 06:19 PM
 
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UNC and it’s plus one will get the first life raft out, which means UVA come on down. If they go Big 10, Duke and Georgia Tech need the B10 to commit to going BIG and forgoing the western borders. SEC would wait for UNC/UVA to decide, and then go for State/VPI as backups and Clemson/FSU as likely. Lots of moving parts if Risk: Conference Realignment hits the ACC.
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Old 11-23-2021, 08:57 PM
 
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UNC and it’s plus one will get the first life raft out, which means UVA come on down. If they go Big 10, Duke and Georgia Tech need the B10 to commit to going BIG and forgoing the western borders. SEC would wait for UNC/UVA to decide, and then go for State/VPI as backups and Clemson/FSU as likely. Lots of moving parts if Risk: Conference Realignment hits the ACC.
Frankly, UNC/UVA fit the Big 10 brand better while VT/NCSU fit the SEC brand better. My guesses would be...

Big 10: UNC, UVA, GT, ND.
SEC: VT, NCSU, Clemson, FSU

Pitt, Louisville, and Miami go Big 12.

Duke, Wake, Cuse, and BC are SOL. If ND remains stubborn about joining a football conference then they get stuck in the Big 12 or as some kind of random independent. That gives Pitt the Big 10 spot and might send Cuse to the Big 12.

And all of this is only if calamity ensues... and we're probably at least 8-10 years away from that.
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Old 11-24-2021, 05:14 AM
 
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Yep, Texas/Ok announced about 4 years before their GOR ended. Similar timeframe for the ACC would be 2032, though that could be expedited if the college landscape really begins to change as fast as it appears to be at the moment. But hey, at least the ACC will be overspending on a Charlotte headquarters. Priorities.
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Old 11-24-2021, 11:58 AM
 
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Yep, Texas/Ok announced about 4 years before their GOR ended. Similar timeframe for the ACC would be 2032, though that could be expedited if the college landscape really begins to change as fast as it appears to be at the moment. But hey, at least the ACC will be overspending on a Charlotte headquarters. Priorities.
Yeah, the migration of Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC really seemed to have rattled some cages.

So however irrational Power 5 college athletics might have been before, we probably should expect it to be even more irrational moving forwards.
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Old 11-25-2021, 09:26 AM
 
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Yeah, the migration of Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC really seemed to have rattled some cages.

So however irrational Power 5 college athletics might have been before, we probably should expect it to be even more irrational moving forwards.
Question. Was the Big East considered a "power" conference before it was raided by the ACC?
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Old 11-25-2021, 10:17 AM
 
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Yes, it got 1 of 6 conference automatic bids under the old BCS system. Auto bids went away with the playoff, and the Power 5 became a thing with the AAC (old Big East) becoming best-of-the-rest.
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Old 11-26-2021, 01:52 AM
 
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Question. Was the Big East considered a "power" conference before it was raided by the ACC?
Yes.

The previous incarnation of the Big East Conference (pre-2013) was considered a power conference before the ACC started raiding it for erstwhile football powers like Miami, Virginia Tech and Boston College in the mid-2000’s and reasonably competitive football schools like Louisville, Pittsburgh and Syracuse along with legendary independent football power Notre Dame in the early-2010’s.

With a line up that included competitive football programs like Miami, Virginia Tech, Boston College, West Virginia, Pittsburgh and even Syracuse, the erstwhile Big East was considered a power conference in football before the ACC originally raided it in 2004-2005.

And if current ACC football programs like Miami, Florida State, Virginia Tech, Pittsburgh, Louisville, Georgia Tech, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Virginia ever were able to hit on all cylinders at the same time or a similar time along with Clemson (who has been a dominant force in college football in recent years before this season) and Notre Dame (who is independent but plays 5 games against ACC opponents each season and has been highly competitive during the Brian Kelly era) and even Wake Forest (which has often been competitive in recent years despite its smaller campus enrollment), the ACC potentially could have the makings of a powerful football conference in its own right.

But, outside of FSU winning the national title after the 2013 season and Clemson’s impressive run during the late 2010’s, the ACC has very often significantly underachieved as a conference in the sport (football) that drives all of the money moves these days.
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Old 12-03-2021, 07:18 AM
 
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Yes.

The previous incarnation of the Big East Conference (pre-2013) was considered a power conference before the ACC started raiding it for erstwhile football powers like Miami, Virginia Tech and Boston College in the mid-2000’s and reasonably competitive football schools like Louisville, Pittsburgh and Syracuse along with legendary independent football power Notre Dame in the early-2010’s.

With a line up that included competitive football programs like Miami, Virginia Tech, Boston College, West Virginia, Pittsburgh and even Syracuse, the erstwhile Big East was considered a power conference in football before the ACC originally raided it in 2004-2005.

And if current ACC football programs like Miami, Florida State, Virginia Tech, Pittsburgh, Louisville, Georgia Tech, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Virginia ever were able to hit on all cylinders at the same time or a similar time along with Clemson (who has been a dominant force in college football in recent years before this season) and Notre Dame (who is independent but plays 5 games against ACC opponents each season and has been highly competitive during the Brian Kelly era) and even Wake Forest (which has often been competitive in recent years despite its smaller campus enrollment), the ACC potentially could have the makings of a powerful football conference in its own right.

But, outside of FSU winning the national title after the 2013 season and Clemson’s impressive run during the late 2010’s, the ACC has very often significantly underachieved as a conference in the sport (football) that drives all of the money moves these days.
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Old 12-03-2021, 11:28 AM
 
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If it's not Clemson, ticket sales suffer. Hopefully the corporate donors in Charlotte will subsidize this event.
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