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I'll admit to not reading the whole thread as it is 7 pages now so forgive me if this has already been covered.
Casinos bring dollars but they almost always come with a cost in increased crime and sleaze (not to mention more traffic, etc.). Why anyone would want to have one in their hometown is beyond me. If the suburbanites in the crowd here are clamoring for one in Houston, I invite you to host it in your suburb instead.
As for theme parks, I am curious how many times per year those voting for a theme park went to Six Flags before it was dismantled?
Why add things that are primarily for tourists? Why not add things that benefit residents like a quality aquarium?
Houston has a lot of stuff for residents but it's just primarily a working city. People come here to work, live and have their salary stretch. Not a whole lot just go on vacation to Houston. Unless they already have family here or something. For a city this large and on the map it should be a good chunk of both.
man if casinos got built here, id be set and settle down here forever lol. although im from texas, casinos are something i miss when i traveled and lived out at in LA. having a casino district in galveston people mentions sounds great. also being able to build off what's been improved on so far in downtown (disc green, bbva compass stadium) and creating an entertainment area with casinos close by would be an idea too. of course crime and the other bad stuff could come along with it which would suck :/
theme parks are cool and all but after a few times, i prob wouldnt go anymore. i know theres def the degenerates that lose lots of cash in casinos, but playing poker was a fun hobby of mine that i loved to do. although texas is conservative, to me it doesnt seem as regulating like california is. i say we need to vote some better politicians into office and get this going.
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Originally Posted by Queen Palm
I know it's wishful thinking, but Houston has a lot of land surrounding it. It would be nice to have something like this here.
Theme parks are too suburban. Houston is pushing into being one of the top 5 cities in the US and is the only one who doesn't have much fun for adults.
Making an amusement park would just continue to keep Houston like a big Orlando. Just stretching forever and ever
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All the vices that come with casinos and gambling is why they should be in Galveston.
Having it in Galveston defeats the purpose of having one. The purpose of the district is to improve entertainment in the core.
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We're some gambling fools aren't we? Texans would rather promote the stupid lotto than support casinos coming to the state.
Astroworld was good for awhile then it just got rundown and ghetto. Like Splashtown. Houston really tries but can't have much amusement/entertainment wise cheaply because it gets rundown in no time.
Casinos are things that work off of Flash. When Casinos lose their interest they get torn down. Casinos need to constantly flaunt their image. First it was with lights, nowadays its a theme package. If you say fun things here get rundown quickly then Casinos IS what we need. Those things are run by super investors. Their image is tied to those things. They are excellent at keeping things flashy.
Anyway, I wonder how if any has the towns with casinos in Louisiana, Oklahoma and New Mexico have gone down after they got Casinos?
Has anyone got any info on if any of these cities have fallen into the doom and gloom that people keep talking about if Casinos come to town? Anywhere where the Mob took over?
I agree. I don't see any good coming out of having a casino/gambling complex.
Nothing? Billions of dollars in direct revenue. Billions more on incidental revenue- Servers, waiters, strippers, thousands of hotel workers. Common Queen. You know better than that. I am gonna have to drag you to Vegas with me. You need to go with fun people.
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Just a host of complex issues and swatches of extreme impoverished, run-down neighborhoods. I heard right outside of Atlantic City, is extremely impoverished neighborhoods/blocks. Prostitution, drugs, etc.
Vegas is run down too just a couple of blocks from the strip. But that has nothing to do with Houston. Houston is already a city of millions, when the strip was built it was plopped in the middle of nowhere (LITERALLY) a Casino district in Midtown or EADO would only improve the area as the miscreants will be priced out by already overpriced real estate.
You have to look at the situations in Vegas/ Atlantic City as much different from Houston. Houston is already developed and has a viable economy based on varying things. Vegas and AC live solely off of gambling. It is run down near those two because it is mainly low class people trying to make a buck. In Houston the area is populated by more stable individuals, and the low income individuals would not be able to afford cost of living near the casinos if it was built in mid town.
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I say aquarium TOO. A theme park. A quality aquarium. A sports complex. Maybe two.... Not all in the same place, but throughout the area.
Theme parks are too suburban. Houston is pushing into being one of the top 5 cities in the US and is the only one who doesn't have much fun for adults.
Making an amusement park would just continue to keep Houston like a big Orlando. Just stretching forever and ever
Having it in Galveston defeats the purpose of having one. The purpose of the district is to improve entertainment in the core.
Casinos are things that work off of Flash. When Casinos lose their interest they get torn down. Casinos need to constantly flaunt their image. First it was with lights, nowadays its a theme package. If you say fun things here get rundown quickly then Casinos IS what we need. Those things are run by super investors. Their image is tied to those things. They are excellent at keeping things flashy.
Anyway, I wonder how if any has the towns with casinos in Louisiana, Oklahoma and New Mexico have gone down after they got Casinos?
Has anyone got any info on if any of these cities have fallen into the doom and gloom that people keep talking about if Casinos come to town? Anywhere where the Mob took over?
Galveston is close enough to Houston. If Houston keeps getting bigger eventually it just might engulf Galveston too.
Good question about casino towns. Anyone know? Kinder, LA is about as podunk as all get out. Makes Mayberry look like NYC but I think it was always like that even before Coushetta.
Galveston is close enough to Houston. If Houston keeps getting bigger eventually it just might engulf Galveston too.
Good question about casino towns. Anyone know? Kinder, LA is about as podunk as all get out. Makes Mayberry look like NYC but I think it was always like that even before Coushetta.
nah I would prefer to have an entertainment district near downtown so that both residents and visitors can enjoy it.
Picture it.
You fly into Houston for a conference at the Hilton Americas where you will also be staying. It is Wednesday night, you are done with the meetings, but your flight doesn't leave till three pm thursday. What do you do???
People keep harping that Houston is a business city but it has little for business travelers.
What would the entertainment district do for visitors in Galveston?? You really think people who are here for conventions, or short trips would rent a car just to go to the Casino.
Nah the district must be located near downtown to provide some form of entertainment to residents and traveler. Galveston already has enough for tourists, putting it in Galveston just keeps making the burbs more and more attractive to visitor.
Houston will forever be the biggest city in America with nothing to do if everytime something new is suggested people shout Put it in Kemah, or put it in the Woodlands, or put it in Texas city,or put it in Galveston. Common people, who are we DFW?? Might as well just build the next Texans stadium in Bay City and cal the team the Texas Texans
nah I would prefer to have an entertainment district near downtown so that both residents and visitors can enjoy it.
Picture it.
You fly into Houston for a conference at the Hilton Americas where you will also be staying. It is Wednesday night, you are done with the meetings, but your flight doesn't leave till three pm thursday. What do you do???
People keep harping that Houston is a business city but it has little for business travelers.
What would the entertainment district do for visitors in Galveston?? You really think people who are here for conventions, or short trips would rent a car just to go to the Casino.
Nah the district must be located near downtown to provide some form of entertainment to residents and traveler. Galveston already has enough for tourists, putting it in Galveston just keeps making the burbs more and more attractive to visitor.
Houston will forever be the biggest city in America with nothing to do if everytime something new is suggested people shout Put it in Kemah, or put it in the Woodlands, or put it in Texas city,or put it in Galveston. Common people, who are we DFW?? Might as well just build the next Texans stadium in Bay City and cal the team the Texas Texans
ROTFLMAO!
See I think the only way for this stuff to actually comes to pass is to not have it in Houston. It would be more beneficial having it actually in the city but Houstonians can be so stubborn on change it just won't ever happen. If people say not in Houston or close it just might have a chance.
See I think the only way for this stuff to actually comes to pass is to not have it in Houston. It would be more beneficial having it actually in the city but Houstonians can be so stubborn on change it just won't ever happen. If people say not in Houston or close it just might have a chance.
Residents usually have little say in what does where.
The Asby hi rise is the sole exception I can think of and in that case the area is largely residential. Midtown already has towers for one, and two the area is largely developer owned rather than a bunch of residentials.
If it is put up for a vote over 80% are in favor of it, so the biggest thing would be attracting financing.
Outside Houston would not be of much use. If it is gonna be outside of Houston then I say just build a theme park. No one visits Chicago and then has to go to a burb to have fun. Houston has 30M visitors a year and little to separate these people from their money
Nothing? Billions of dollars in direct revenue. Billions more on incidental revenue- Servers, waiters, strippers, thousands of hotel workers. Common Queen. You know better than that. I am gonna have to drag you to Vegas with me. You need to go with fun people.
You can't drag me there, cuz I'll be to busy dragging you to a Disney-esque theme park.
With much love and all due respect, I just don't see the good from gambling. I see too many people tempted to gamble their lives away. Putting a complex here, may gain billions in revenue, but the cost of the lives negatively affected, and the uptick in even more prostitution and all the ails that casinos bring.....just........
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Vegas is run down too just a couple of blocks from the strip. But that has nothing to do with Houston. Houston is already a city of millions, when the strip was built it was plopped in the middle of nowhere (LITERALLY) a Casino district in Midtown or EADO would only improve the area as the miscreants will be priced out by already overpriced real estate.
You have to look at the situations in Vegas/ Atlantic City as much different from Houston. Houston is already developed and has a viable economy based on varying things. Vegas and AC live solely off of gambling. It is run down near those two because it is mainly low class people trying to make a buck. In Houston the area is populated by more stable individuals, and the low income individuals would not be able to afford cost of living near the casinos if it was built in mid town.
which is why I feel a theme park (and amusement park as well) would be more of an upswing. And tourism dollars and economy (which never hurts) along with the oil, gas, medical and space industries, would make it even more of a diverse economy.
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I want an aquarium too.
maybe they could convert the Astrodome? or more wishful thinking.......?
Lol,first of all their are plenty things to do in Houston as far as adult theme activites. The thing Houston lacks is a major tourist attraction. That doesn't mean it's nothing to do it just means your a boring person. 2nd when I visit other cities I don't look for the nearest theme park. I'm 28 with no kids. Theme parks are nice and Houston metro could use one but it doesn't need to be in the cities core. If Houston want's to focus on an attraction for residents and tourist they should build a huge entertainment district. And I say center it around Buffalo Bayou. I think Houston can learn something from The Woodlands. The Waterway is a smart and innovative work of art. I look at old pictures of Houston and they use to do things right by the bayou. Why not transform that area into a entertainment district. I doubt it since it's so close to the jail/courts. But I feel like it's alot of potential there. I mean parts of it is just sitting there. A rest haven for the homeless. Other then that I don't know why ppl like Deja states that Houston is stubborn. Projects like this have nothing to do with the residents. If it were that easy then cities in the states would be much horrible since everybody would have a say so.
And maybe im missing something but Houston already has an aquarium and it's pretty nice too. Why build another one? Do you all even explore the city you live in?
Lol,first of all their are plenty things to do in Houston as far as adult theme activites. The thing Houston lacks is a major tourist attraction. That doesn't mean it's nothing to do it just means your a boring person. 2nd when I visit other cities I don't look for the nearest theme park. I'm 28 with no kids. Theme parks are nice and Houston metro could use one but it doesn't need to be in the cities core. If Houston want's to focus on an attraction for residents and tourist they should build a huge entertainment district. And I say center it around Buffalo Bayou. I think Houston can learn something from The Woodlands. The Waterway is a smart and innovative work of art. I look at old pictures of Houston and they use to do things right by the bayou. Why not transform that area into a entertainment district. I doubt it since it's so close to the jail/courts. But I feel like it's alot of potential there. I mean parts of it is just sitting there. A rest haven for the homeless. Other then that I don't know why ppl like Deja states that Houston is stubborn. Projects like this have nothing to do with the residents. If it were that easy then cities in the states would be much horrible since everybody would have a say so.
And maybe im missing something but Houston already has an aquarium and it's pretty nice too. Why build another one? Do you all even explore the city you live in?
The majority of people I see in this town are families with little kids, even in the 'hood. I live on the west side, and I'll grant you, it has a more suburban vibe than, lets say West Dallas and Waugh.
Just ride the Bellaire bus on a Saturday morning, nothing but 5-6 moms with about 2-3 kids each and they are going to Sharpstown mall. Any Wal-Mart west of Gessner after 9am on a Saturday is nothing but moms and dads with elementary school-age kids running around. And the junior high/high school world is huge out here.
Houston just doesn't strike me as an Austin with a 6th Street or South Congress with fifteen million bars playing rockabilly and the sidewalks crowded with drunk*** college student wannabe hipsters and 30-something people with money trying to relive their college days (although Lower Westheimer approaches that some weekends). A theme park would be perfect, but I don't think it needs to be in the center of town. Put it on 71 or 290 so the Austin people can go as well. Houston is a "family-friendly" town, or at least tries very hard to be.
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