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Old 01-08-2021, 06:18 AM
 
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I don't think that getting married gets you a deferral. Check out this page, especially page 42
http://archive.moia.gov.il/Publications/idf_en.pdf
Do the Haredim living in Israel already get deferrals on religious grounds? In which case I would imagine that whether they have newly married would not be an issue in regard to IDF service? I know that there are also young Haredi men who volunteer for service, and I imagine that they probably delay marriage until after their time of service is finished.

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Old 01-08-2021, 06:30 AM
 
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Do the Haredim living in Israel already get deferrals on religious grounds? In which case I would imagine that whether they have newly married would not be an issue in regard to IDF service? I know that there are also young Haredi men who volunteer for service, and I imagine that they probably delay marriage until after their time of service is finished.
If one learns in yeshiva, one can apply for a 6 month deferral and then keep reapplying as long as one stays in yeshiva.
 
Old 01-08-2021, 06:55 AM
 
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If one learns in yeshiva, one can apply for a 6 month deferral and then keep reapplying as long as one stays in yeshiva.
Thanks for the clarification.
 
Old 01-08-2021, 06:55 AM
 
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I don't think that getting married gets you a deferral. Check out this page, especially page 42
http://archive.moia.gov.il/Publications/idf_en.pdf
TY. I asked because a thread you no longer visit reached mitzvah 71:

71. That the newly married husband shall (be free) for one year to rejoice with his wife (Deut. 24:5)

Deuteronomy 24:5 --- When a man hath taken a new wife, he shall not go out to war, neither shall he be charged with any business: but he shall be free at home one year, and shall cheer up his wife which he hath taken.
 
Old 01-08-2021, 08:15 AM
 
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TY. I asked because a thread you no longer visit reached mitzvah 71:

71. That the newly married husband shall (be free) for one year to rejoice with his wife (Deut. 24:5)

Deuteronomy 24:5 --- When a man hath taken a new wife, he shall not go out to war, neither shall he be charged with any business: but he shall be free at home one year, and shall cheer up his wife which he hath taken.
Keep in mind Israel has a fully secular government, most frequently hostile towards the Torah Observant. It should be no shocker that they would have (many) laws that are against halacha and Torah.
 
Old 01-08-2021, 08:34 AM
 
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Keep in mind Israel has a fully secular government, most frequently hostile towards the Torah Observant. It should be no shocker that they would have (many) laws that are against halacha and Torah.
Are Israeli politics similar to ours? Dad and I were discussing this last night and I said, "I would have to research because I'm not quite sure."
 
Old 01-08-2021, 08:57 AM
 
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Israel, though its laws are infused with elements of Judaism, is not a theocracy and some of its policies are not in line with strict Torah law. Trying to equate Israel's secular practices in 2021 with the laws designed for a theocratic state is not going to be fruitful. While there are moments of overlap, one needs only to see that the IDF allows female soldiers (though married women are officially exempt from service) whereas the biblical "army" had no women in it.
 
Old 01-08-2021, 09:31 AM
 
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Israel, though its laws are infused with elements of Judaism, is not a theocracy and some of its policies are not in line with strict Torah law. Trying to equate Israel's secular practices in 2021 with the laws designed for a theocratic state is not going to be fruitful. While there are moments of overlap, one needs only to see that the IDF allows female soldiers (though married women are officially exempt from service) whereas the biblical "army" had no women in it.
That's interesting!

Now are politics divided into parties too?
 
Old 01-08-2021, 09:35 AM
 
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That's interesting!

Now are politics divided into parties too?
Here's a Wiki article for you, Jess, in addition to Rosend's helpful replies, on Israel's political party system: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ties_in_Israel

We don't really want to get into any comparisons of Israel with U.S. politics on this forum, as I'm sure you weren't intending to do anyway.
 
Old 01-08-2021, 09:47 AM
 
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That's interesting!

Now are politics divided into parties too?
Lots of parties. The parliament ("Knesset") is headed by a prime minister from the party that gets the most votes as long as it either on its own, or in coallition with other parties, has over 50% of the seats. It is a very confusing and complicated syste, and with the fractured Israeli political landscape, it has been tough for any one party to assemble a government that holds together. That's whay the country is headed into the 4th set of elections in 2 years.
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