Covid virus in phoenix (Maricopa: convert, contract, how far)

[DetroitN8V]

I was in Costco yesterday and mask compliance was 100% minus one. The butcher asked the one idiot to put their mask back on and they complied. No big deal. Regardless of the anecdotes, I think most people get it by now.

[belgirl]

And in today's headlines: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...eaders/616669/

Schools are not super-spreaders. "Our data on almost 200,000 kids in 47 states from the last two weeks of September revealed an infection rate of 0.13 percent among students and 0.24 percent among staff."

[goolsbyjazz]

Originally Posted by belgirl

And in today's headlines: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...eaders/616669/

Schools are not super-spreaders. "Our data on almost 200,000 kids in 47 states from the last two weeks of September revealed an infection rate of 0.13 percent among students and 0.24 percent among staff."

Good to know.

[Valley Native]

Update on the COVID situation with Ducey making an announcement today. Despite the reported cases & deaths increasing, Arizona is looking a little bit better than we did over the summer as far as how we rank compared to other states. I believe in June & July, we were in the top 5, but now we're 15th ranked.

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020...aps-and-cases/

I have to say that I'm more confident in Ducey's response now compared to his previous actions. He correctly stated that we need to focus on accountability and focus on the safety precautions in place (wearing masks, socially distancing, etc.). Thankfully, there are no plans for another mandatory shutdown or curfew!

[JGMotorsport64]

Relative to other states were not as bad but in raw numbers were past our worst peak and moving upwards quickly. Deaths are higher than before.

Hospitals are converting floors back to COVID units. SHTF in about two weeks at this rate

[Valley Native]

Originally Posted by JGMotorsport64

Relative to other states were not as bad but in raw numbers were past our worst peak and moving upwards quickly. Deaths are higher than before.

Yes, we are now on another upward swing, which is concerning. It was thought early on that heat would help reduce the spread of the virus, but this turned out to be completely untrue based on how our numbers were spiking during the summer. One speculation is dry air helps makes viruses more contagious, and we've certainly been in a long dry spell since April. Our "wonderful climate" isn't helping in this regard. In fact, it might have contributed to the problem.

https://airtecsolutions.com/blog/air...ir-this-is-why

Originally Posted by JGMotorsport64

Hospitals are converting floors back to COVID units. SHTF in about two weeks at this rate

St. Luke's was revamped in order to serve as a backup hospital, but it still remains unused while other hospitals are nearing capacity once again. Does this make any sense???

In any case, the last thing we need to do is copy California and impose more lockdowns & curfews. Ducey apparently figured out that all the mandatory shutdowns & shelter in places orders are hurting businesses & causing more hardship for people than the virus itself is. Have the shutdowns stopped the COVID spread? I think we all know the answer to that.

[Ponderosa]

Originally Posted by JGMotorsport64

Relative to other states were not as bad but in raw numbers were past our worst peak and moving upwards quickly. Deaths are higher than before.

Hospitals are converting floors back to COVID units. SHTF in about two weeks at this rate

We are now at the point we were this summer when Ducey took action to close some businesses. Since that apparently is not going to happen this time and with all the snowbirds in town, we can expect to go higher, maybe much higher in the next month. There are only a little more than 100 ICU beds left in the entire state. Refrigerated trucks to hold the bodies have been ordered. It won't be just covids, but other things like cardiac, stroke and accidents who will be designated DNR or denied treatment because of shortages of beds and staff.

[Oklazona Bound]

Originally Posted by belgirl

And in today's headlines: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...eaders/616669/

Schools are not super-spreaders. "Our data on almost 200,000 kids in 47 states from the last two weeks of September revealed an infection rate of 0.13 percent among students and 0.24 percent among staff."

So if you do the math, pardon me I am doing this on the fly. There are 50 million students, I know not all are in classrooms now. .13% would be 65,000 kids tested positive for the virus during that time. In late September there were about 35,000 reported new cases a day. Yesterday we were at 230,000. So that means now in two weeks 500,000 kids got the virus and potentially spread it to their parents and others? I would also say that since kids usually do not show symptoms the 500,000 number is probably very very low from reality.

[belgirl]

It's household spread that is one of the major problems. The cases in schools reflect this. The kids aren't passing it to each other, they are getting Covid from home. And once it hits a household, it's very hard to contain. Which is why a mask mandate only does so much. I think people are also having household parties-one of my friends got invited to an anniversary party at someone's house--no masks, no social distancing and they said "No way."

[Valley Native]

Originally Posted by belgirl

It's household spread that is one of the major problems. The cases in schools reflect this. The kids aren't passing it to each other, they are getting Covid from home. And once it hits a household, it's very hard to contain. Which is why a mask mandate only does so much. I think people are also having household parties-one of my friends got invited to an anniversary party at someone's house--no masks, no social distancing and they said "No way."

There have been different theories about kids and COVID, but a report on WebMD indicates that children are just as likely to be COVID spreaders as adults (if not more so). I tend to agree with this. Why wouldn't children pass it to each other or onto adults outside of their households? Kids are germ factories as it is. You might be surprised at how contagious they can be, and how far bacteria from their sneezes & coughs can travel.

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...19-spreaders#1