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Single mother gets subsidized housing, and gets to cut to the front of the line for Section 8
Single mother has access to WIC. Furthermore, why is she spending 600 dollars a month on food? That's $20 a day. Given that a box of non name-brand cereal costs about 3 dollars and would last a good 3 weeks, and that single mom probably gets junior free lunches at school, that means she's not being very frugal when either A) making dinner or B) avoiding Starbucks each morning on her way to work.
Not for a 600 dollar apartment. Water and sewage are probably included. Electricity is probably no more than 60 bucks a month. Heat is probably electric. If it's gas, take on another 30.
A car isn't a right. She can take the train.
So far I have costs of $22,800.
Where the hell is this woman driving to that she uses 30 gallons of gas a week? I fill up my car once per week...14 gallons. And I drive a lot. But again, she can take the train.
Your numbers are already too far off to continue, but let's anyways.
She's poor. The only thing she's probably actually paying without getting back is the sales tax.
See..if the libs think the poor MUST live like that due to NECESSITY than there should be no wonder at their cry for taxing the rich.
This fictional poor mother spends more than I do and I'm not poor.
See..if the libs think the poor MUST live like that due to NECESSITY than there should be no wonder at their cry for taxing the rich.
Don't put words in other people's mouths.
One can quote anecdotal examples. However, the main reason the nation should tax the wealthy greater is that when we did, we had a better nation and we ran budget surpluses.
Nice trick you tried to pull there. Adding in the 46% that don't pay federal income taxes to that 90% of your. Of course when you add in non payers in with the middle class who do pay more than the top 1% you might get a lower overall effective tax rate.
How about you check the second highest quintile and compare their effective rate with the top 400 taxpayer effective rate.
Also when they say x amount does not pay any taxes, they fail to mention that many of them are retirees who have been paying taxes longer than the people complaining that they don't pay enough. These people are only trying to live their final days off of on ssi (which was promised to them) and their failed investments which were managed by the very same people that don't pay what they should.
Also when they say x amount does not pay any taxes, they fail to mention that many of them are retirees who have been paying taxes longer than the people complaining that they don't pay enough. These people are only trying to live their final days off of on ssi (which was promised to them) and their failed investments which were managed by the very same people that don't pay what they should.
oh please..I earn 60k and pay NOTHING in federal income OR PAYROLL tax
Also when they say x amount does not pay any taxes, they fail to mention that many of them are retirees who have been paying taxes longer than the people complaining that they don't pay enough. These people are only trying to live their final days off of on ssi (which was promised to them) and their failed investments which were managed by the very same people that don't pay what they should.
That's a valid point.
My parents lived the last ten years of their lives with nothing but Social Security and interest on a small amount of money, after a lifetime of paying taxes. The regressives will never convince me that they 'didn't have a stake' in the nation and would have had they been required to pay taxes on their meager income.
Also when they say x amount does not pay any taxes, they fail to mention that many of them are retirees who have been paying taxes longer than the people complaining that they don't pay enough. These people are only trying to live their final days off of on ssi (which was promised to them) and their failed investments which were managed by the very same people that don't pay what they should.
wrong
when they state the FACT the the bottom 46% dont pay into hte federal coffers of income tax, it is based on WORKING AGE..ie 18-65..the same as the unenmployment grouping..they dont count seniors either
My parents lived the last ten years of their lives with nothing but Social Security and interest on a small amount of money, after a lifetime of paying taxes. The regressives will never convince me that they 'didn't have a stake' in the nation and would have had they been required to pay taxes on their meager income.
it was the neanderthall liberals that made SS income taxable
funny thing that liberal logic
ss income tax able
UE income taxable
welfare income not taxable
when they state the FACT the the bottom 46% dont pay into hte federal coffers of income tax, it is based on WORKING AGE..ie 18-65..the same as the unenmployment grouping..they dont count seniors either
If so, how is it that 44% are getting elderly tax benefits if the age group is what you say, 18-65%?
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Rhetorical fervor aside, the 53 Percent campaign does raise an interesting question: What is going on with that other 47 percent? Why are so few people paying income taxes? For the answer to that question, we turn to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, which released a study on the subject this July. (The TPC also put out the initial report with the 53 percent number.)
The short answer is: deductions and poverty. About half of households within that 47 percent do not end up paying federal income tax because they qualify for enough breaks to cancel their tax obligations out. Of that group, 44 percent are claiming tax benefits for the elderly, like an exemption for Social Security payments. And 30.4 percent are claiming credits for “children and the working poor,” like the child-care tax credit. The remainder get breaks for investment income, spending on education, itemized deductions, and a mish-mash of other things. When combined, it’s all enough to cancel out their income tax requirements.
In short, it is not that they are not paying their taxes. It is that the country’s tax structure lets them off the hook. Indeed, you can draw a straight line between the Bush tax cuts and the growing number of households exempted from income tax. For instance, the 2001 cuts, extended under the Obama administration, doubled the child tax credit from $500 to $1,000 and expanded eligibility for the Earned Income Tax Credit among married taxpayers. Additionally, the Bush tax cuts lowered income taxes in every bracket, making it easier for a household’s liability to get fully offset by deductions and credits. And on top of all that, the stimulus bill introduced a host of further tax cuts.
That covers about half of the households that don’t pay any federal income taxes. The other half of households are just too poor to pay them. The Tax Policy Center provides a handy example: A couple with two children earning less than $26,400 per year pays no income tax if it takes standard deductions and common exemptions, for instance. “The basic structure of the income tax simply exempts subsistence levels of income from tax,” TPC’s Roberton Williams writes.
That pool of too-poor households has grown much bigger because of the recession and its aftermath: Average incomes have kept on declining even though the recession has officially ended, and millions of households have lost one or both of their wage-earners. Households are earning about 10 percent less than they did in 2007. About 12 percent of families live in poverty. That means a lot of folks simply aren’t eligible for income tax.
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You have argued that the poor do pay taxes. Now you are arguing they don't because they are too poor.
Let's clarify your position: do you think the poorest earners pay taxes?
What I have stated was that the poor pay taxes (i.e. sales, payroll, gasoline, etc.) but don't pay income taxes. In fact, most workers pay more payroll taxes than income taxes.
The right-wing uses the slight of hand of saying 'taxes' as a proxy for 'income taxes.'
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