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Old 03-31-2012, 07:11 PM
 
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Did the perp in this crime get a free pass like Zimmerman? That`s the issue.
I completely understand why you feel the way you do. When you have never worked in law enforcement and don't know or understand how the laws in our country work, it's easy to form an opinion. I can't say Zimmerman got a "free pass", because he wasn't arrested. It is unlikely any police agency will arrest someone, no matter what color they are, when there is not enough evidence to back up their case. If a District Attorney is not going to prosecute a person because there is not enough evidence they committed a crime, then a police agency is not going to make an arrest and face possible charges of false arrest against their department or fellow officer. There were witnesses in this case that backed up Zimmerman's story, that being the case, what else can a police agency do? They have the rest of Zimmerman's life to arrest him, if they can determine at some point that he deserves to be arrested and charged with a crime. I wasn't there and you weren't there, so neither of us knows for sure exactly what happened, all we can do is take the statements from the people that were there and make a determination. As a police officer, if you jump to the same conclusions that many people on this forum have done, and make an arrest, you will be facing a law suit and likely will loose your job because of your inability to sort out the facts.
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Old 03-31-2012, 07:24 PM
 
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Default Will the MSM ever deal with the fact young Black males kill at 10 times the rate of Whites and Hispanics combined? Repl

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I definitely do. Crime as a whole (regardless of race) would go down significantly. We'd also save thousands of Mexican lives a year. The Drug War is financially draining this country and doing nothing to stop the use of drugs. All it does is inflate the prices and flood our jails.


See Portugal for a great example of how a change in drug policy can actually lower its use and greatly reduce crime rates. They chose to legalize everything and heavily fund rehab, counseling, etc.
They tried this in Russia too, and when it didn't work they just exterminated them. That is one way to get rid of drug users/pushers, maybe you have hit on a solution to some of our problems in the USA. The prisons are over crowded.
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Old 03-31-2012, 07:27 PM
 
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I definitely do. Crime as a whole (regardless of race) would go down significantly. We'd also save thousands of Mexican lives a year. The Drug War is financially draining this country and doing nothing to stop the use of drugs. All it does is inflate the prices and flood our jails.


See Portugal for a great example of how a change in drug policy can actually lower its use and greatly reduce crime rates. They chose to legalize everything and heavily fund rehab, counseling, etc.
They tried this in Russia too, and when it didn't work they just exterminated them. That is one way to get rid of drug users/pushers, maybe you have hit on a solution to some of our problems in the USA. Rehab and counseling works only when the criminals want to lead a different life. When crime is all they know, there isn't much chance of changing their minds.
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Old 03-31-2012, 08:10 PM
 
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Maybe if the White devil didn't push the Black man into a corner he wouldn't bite.
If racism in the US is why so many Blacks are messed up: why do MOST Blacks who come here from Africa do so well here? That stops the "racism" excuse cold.
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Old 03-31-2012, 08:14 PM
 
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No justice no peace
Copout.

If Blacks REALLY wanna talk about justice: how about holding the hood rats to the SAME standard is Zimmerman? Sorry: the KKK doesn't have a thing on murders of Black people. Like the Irish in the US; my people, it was mostly IRish killing other Irish 100-150 years ago, NOT the English, Germans, and so on.
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Old 03-31-2012, 08:14 PM
 
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'White supremacists' face death penalty for US prison murders


Experts say that the gang was founded in the late 1950s at the San Quentin penitentiary in California, when white inmates banded together to protect themselves against blacks and Hispanics, who outnumbered them. In the mid-1960s, the group named itself the Aryan Brotherhood, thus formalising its espousal of racism and white supremacy. Its chilling and self-explanatory motto reads: "Kill to get in; die to get out".

'White supremacists' face death penalty for US prison murders - Americas - World - The Independent

http://www.adl.org/special_reports/r...sons/print.asp

Apparently, you've never watch MSNBC: LOCKUP. The prisons are full of serial killers, rapists and murderers and the majority are white men.
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Old 03-31-2012, 08:17 PM
 
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If racism in the US is why so many Blacks are messed up: why do MOST Blacks who come here from Africa do so well here? That stops the "racism" excuse cold.
Sigh...not the African argument again.

Let me ask you this: Are most Africans (who live in Africa) successful and crime free? If not, why?

Hint: Almost all of the African immigrants that come to the US, are middle/upper-class. They usually get here by way of student VISA. So, right off the bat, you have folks from a middle/upper-class background who are pursuing higher education. What else would this people do, besides succeed?

These African immigrants are on par with middle/upper class African-Americans, so I'm not sure why there's always a need to compare them to AAs who are on welfare.

If we're going to do a comparison, let's keep it honest.
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Old 03-31-2012, 08:20 PM
 
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'White supremacists' face death penalty for US prison murders


Experts say that the gang was founded in the late 1950s at the San Quentin penitentiary in California, when white inmates banded together to protect themselves against blacks and Hispanics, who outnumbered them. In the mid-1960s, the group named itself the Aryan Brotherhood, thus formalising its espousal of racism and white supremacy. Its chilling and self-explanatory motto reads: "Kill to get in; die to get out".

'White supremacists' face death penalty for US prison murders - Americas - World - The Independent

Apparently, you've never watch MSNBC: LOCKUP. The prisons are full of serial killers, rapists and murderers and the majority are white men.
Which means nothing unless it's the same number of white men out of 100 on the outside as Black convicts out of 100 who are also free.
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Old 03-31-2012, 08:23 PM
 
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Sigh...not the African argument again.

Let me ask you this: Are most Africans (who live in Africa) successful and crime free? If not, why?

Hint: Almost all of the African immigrants that come to the US, are middle/upper-class. They usually get here by way of student VISA. So, right off the bat, you have folks from a middle/upper-class background who are pursuing higher education. What else would this people do, besides succeed?

These African immigrants are on par with middle/upper class African-Americans, so I'm not sure why there's always a need to compare them to AAs who are on welfare.

If we're going to do a comparison, let's keep it honest.
You just said in not so many words it's NOT skin color that's the problem with too many American Black men since African Blacks do very well here, it's the first group's overall attitude, NOT race, for what ever the reason. What other Africans do at HOME is of no concern to us since they aren't here in the US
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Old 03-31-2012, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Metro DC area
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You just said in not so many words it's NOT skin color that's the problem with too many American Black men since African Blacks do very well here, it's the first group's overall attitude, NOT race, for what ever the reason.
No, that's not what I'm saying at all.

What I'm saying is that socio-economical status is the difference, NOT race and definitely not attitude.

The only difference is that for many AAs, the path towards getting to that middle/upper class status oftentimes start from the bottom. African immigrants are usually at this level when they arrive here.

This is a more fair comparison:

poor blacks in Africa and their behavior vs. poor AAs in America and their behavior.

Middle/upper class African immigrants vs. Middle/upper class AAs

When you compare based on socio-economical status, there really is no discrepancy at all.
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