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Old 03-27-2013, 02:12 PM
 
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No, it's offensive to even think that what gays are going through in 2012 is comparable to what blacks endured during slavery and even during the Civil Rights era.
Well, I'm not offended, and neither is the one black person who chimed in. Not that it matters what we compare anything to.

 
Old 03-27-2013, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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And by that train of thought, if gay marriage is legalized, any man can marry any man or woman. Just as any woman can marry any man or woman.

Don't want to marry another woman? Don't do so.
So let's just legalize everything and say "If you don't want to participate, you don't have to, but anybody else around you might just participate and we don't care how it effects you." Again, speaking in generalities, b/c you fail to see the slippery slope this sets up.

It would be changing the law to any adult to any adult, what's to stop it from becoming any adult to any number of other adults, or any mammal to any mammal? And no, I'm not likening being gay to bestiality.
 
Old 03-27-2013, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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It doesn't matter because this isn't about "redefining marriage." This is about the same law being applied differently to straights and gays, which is unconstitutional under the equal protection clause.
ONE MAN. ONE WOMAN. The law says nothing about sexual preference or love. Why is that so hard to understand? There is no "equal protection" needed.
 
Old 03-27-2013, 02:14 PM
 
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So let's just legalize everything and say "If you don't want to participate, you don't have to, but anybody else around you might just participate and we don't care how it effects you." Again, speaking in generalities, b/c you fail to see the slippery slope this sets up.

It would be changing the law to any adult to any adult, what's to stop it from becoming any adult to any number of other adults, or any mammal to any mammal? And no, I'm not likening being gay to bestiality.
Bzzt. Invoking straw man rule. Please read:

Straw man - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Old 03-27-2013, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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Bzzt. Invoking straw man rule. Please read:

Straw man - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Yes, I'm doing that purposely so you can see what just expanding laws willy nilly might lead to.
 
Old 03-27-2013, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Metro DC area
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Get over it. Blacks aren't the only victims and blacks do not own victimhood (though many try). Gays have been killed, beaten up and harrassed all their life. Ever hear of Stonewall?

If you feel there is nothing in common between various groups when their civil liberties are trampled on, then black people need to take a second seat, as black people were never sent to mass concentration and death camps the way Jews were.
Why are you insulting black people to get your point across?
 
Old 03-27-2013, 02:16 PM
 
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ONE MAN. ONE WOMAN. The law says nothing about sexual preference or love. Why is that so hard to understand? There is no "equal protection" needed.
Your anger notwithstanding, legal minds much more educated than ours disagree with you.
 
Old 03-27-2013, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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No, it's offensive to even think that what gays are going through in 2012 is comparable to what blacks endured during slavery and even during the Civil Rights era.
Nobody is saying that homosexuals have it exactly like blacks used to. Only that there are parallels and comparable aspects. Apples are not oranges, but we can compare them. Discrimination based upon sexual orientation is not the exact same as discrimination based upon race, but we can compare them. Sociology is a pretty awesome field to study. You see parallels between societal aspects you may not have ever considered.
 
Old 03-27-2013, 02:17 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I hear some people try to compare the gay marriage issue to what blacks went through. I just heard someone compare it to Jackie Robinson. Stop it. That's appalling. Homosexuals as men and women never suffered or are treated like blacks were. To make such a comparison is disgusting.

Civil rights are not being violated. You can do anything another normal man or woman can do.

This entire issue has been blown out of proportion with stupid rhetoric
We can and we will. People who are both gay and black have done it. So, deal with it.
 
Old 03-27-2013, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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Your anger notwithstanding, legal minds much more educated than ours disagree with you.
Justice Scalia would disagree.
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