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Old 07-08-2013, 12:55 PM
 
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Based on the good cross examination, I disagree that it was damaging to the prosecution. The point was made very clearly that Mr. Martin was hearing the tape for the first time, hearing the gunshot that killed his son, and that he was quite emotional. Of course, many people respond to being informed of the death of a loved one with the word "no"......and Serino also testified that that is true as a form of denial of the death. That is a jury of 6 women a number of whom are mothers and it would not be unrealistic to think that some of those women have experienced being informed of the death or a loved or, or at the very least can imagine how they would react to actually HEARING the gunshot which had killed one of their children.
You can try that, but it ain't gonna work. LOL!

 
Old 07-08-2013, 12:55 PM
 
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Awesome witness. Awesome demonstration on the mounting of a person and how that puts the person on bottom in a bad position.

"If you are on the top, you have gravity working for you."
Agreed. This coach is a professional and believable. He is easy for the jury to understand.
 
Old 07-08-2013, 12:56 PM
 
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Agreed. This coach is a professional and believable. He is easy for the jury to understand.
Yes, very pleasant, honest and easy to follow.
 
Old 07-08-2013, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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In the article "Is Black Manhood on Trial?" the author writes:

"That Zimmerman fumbled for an answer when the lead investigator asked whether he thought Trayvon was afraid of him is emblematic of the way society has trained us to think about black manhood. Of course he didn’t think Trayvon could be scared. Young black men never are. They are the danger.

Which is also why, for some, Zimmerman’s story, even with the cartoonish language he ascribes to Trayvon, doesn’t sound far-fetched. A black man jumping from behind the bushes to sucker-punch someone they don’t know and attempt to kill them only a short distance from their home. It makes perfect sense if you believe that black men are preternaturally violent."


"Zimmerman’s innocence rests on the notion of Trayvon’s criminality. And in this country, it’s not that difficult to convince six people of the criminality of a 17-year-old black boy."



Read more: Trayvon Martin and Black Manhood On Trial | The Nation Trayvon Martin and Black Manhood On Trial | The Nation
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The author of that article is just...shall we say, silly. This is one case between 2 men, one black and one Hispanic. No indication of either race/culture as a whole.
 
Old 07-08-2013, 12:56 PM
 
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The witness/coach is explaining GZ's training in Grappling and even though he trained for under a year, Martin was still able to take advantage and pin Zimmerman because he was still inexperienced. You just don't become experienced in a years time. He gave Zimmerman a rating of 0.5 to a 1 when it came to skill.

You don't need MMA training to try to wriggle out from under someone who is on top of you. Nor do you need special instruction to hit back at someone. This whole idea that George needed special training to fight a 17 year old boy is beyond ridiculous. Like, what, only those with special training get into fist fights?
 
Old 07-08-2013, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Dale, Is O'Mara getting ready to establish your view that GZ is a weenie? LOL!
Sure looks that way.
Weinie George with the high little voice.

That's our George!

lolol
 
Old 07-08-2013, 12:58 PM
 
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The author of that article is just...shall we say, silly. This is one case between 2 men, one black and one Hispanic. No indication of either race/culture as a whole.
I disagree. Race is the elephant in the room in this trial.
 
Old 07-08-2013, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Don't have time to read it right now, though I will. I will point out, the operative words are "may have". They don't know either.
Read the article. Then you'll know.
 
Old 07-08-2013, 12:59 PM
 
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Extremely well-prepared witness. One question he almost answered a question before the first word came out of O'mara mouth
 
Old 07-08-2013, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Houston
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The evidence of Z's ineptness in fighting was written in blood on his face.
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