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Old 08-21-2014, 08:52 PM
 
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I said if they want or need black applicants its up to them to find them. Since the Police Chief said he's looking for them, I assume he feels he needs them.
No, it's not up to them to go to the ends of the earth to find black applicants. If no qualified applicants exist in the community (where 6% of the people even bother to vote), then it's the community that needs to be addressed - not the police dept.

 
Old 08-21-2014, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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So Brown had already surrendered, was slumped over, when the officer continued to approach him and execute him.


Per the new witness who gave a very detailed account.


The officer was 25 away as he was shooting.
I'll bet there are more witnesses (not yet disclosed) who will testify to the same thing.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 08:55 PM
 
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No, it's not up to them to go to the ends of the earth to find black applicants. If no qualified applicants exist in the community (where 6% of the people even bother to vote), then it's the community that needs to be addressed - not the police dept.
How do you propose that would work?
 
Old 08-21-2014, 08:56 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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I don't want to. The Ferguson Police Chief said he was looking for black applicants. I assume if he cant find them locally, he will go further afield.

You're making a lot of assumptions.

For all we know, the Ferguson police force is a closed good old boys club. Lets not pretend they don't still exist in small towns across the country. Maybe the locals aren't interested in suing their way into a job. Most people aren't.
Yep, probably just another racist conspiracy.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 08:56 PM
 
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Stop pretending that citizens everywhere of all political persuasions are not engaged by whats in it for them.

You really should frame this post and keep it for later when you are wondering why the Republican party cant elect another president in your lifetime.

For sure these people didn't vote Republican; but, you can bet your bottom dollar there are Democrats in there now trying to get them registered.
Keep dreaming Blondy.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 08:58 PM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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I don't want to. The Ferguson Police Chief said he was looking for black applicants. I assume if he cant find them locally, he will go further afield.
Sorry I missed this part of the discussion earlier. Police officers in Missouri must be POST certified through completion of academy before being hired. You cannot just recruit anyone, and obviously you cannot recruit anyone from outside the state of Missouri. A few of the very large departments run their own academy and pay recruits to go through it, but Ferguson is nowhere close to that scope.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 09:01 PM
 
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How do you propose that would work?
Taper off the entitlements while at the same time instituting a policy of accountability (mandatory drug testing to receive welfare and other benefits, no benefits for households that receive misdemeanor or felony convictions while on benefits, etc).

Create job training programs and life skills programs that are mandatory attendance to receive benefits. Job placement assistance upon certification completion, and benefits end there.

Things like that, things that would break the cycle of entitlement while at the same time fostering personal responsibility in the community.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Yes, they did. Incident report 14-12391 (or 2014-12391). That's been pretty widely published as the incident number.
The actual investigative report is being filed by the investigating agency, St Louis County, and is report 14-43984 (or 2014-43984). Again, also widely published. Both report numbers were in the robbery report.
Cool beans.

Like another poster said thanks for your info in here along with intimate knowledge of the area.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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Yes, they did. Incident report 14-12391 (or 2014-12391). That's been pretty widely published as the incident number.
The actual investigative report is being filed by the investigating agency, St Louis County, and is report 14-43984 (or 2014-43984). Again, also widely published. Both report numbers were in the robbery report.
Don't think so. The robbery report was filed. Not the killing report though.

Michael Brown Shooting: Why Ferguson Police Never Filed 'Incident Report' - NBC News

The county filed one that was essentially blank on 8/19.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 09:02 PM
 
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No, it's not up to them to go to the ends of the earth to find black applicants. If no qualified applicants exist in the community (where 6% of the people even bother to vote), then it's the community that needs to be addressed - not the police dept.
I doubt he needs to go to the ends of the earth to find qualified applicants.
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