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Old 09-16-2016, 10:21 AM
 
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Who is the one responsible for making sure the child is secure in that car seating? The parents perhaps?

The same parents that should be responsible for teaching their children right from wrong and how to behave by raising them properly?

Given your AR-15 comment it's no surprise that you can't see the logic, as you're placing the blame on the wrong target.
Given my use of the AR-15 comment in it's context mean't to illustrate the government's contradiction in logic; what target is it you think I'm incorrectly aiming at?

Manufactures deliberately designing BB guns and toy pistols to be an exact replica to their firearm counterparts I view as irresponsible. Neither of those need to be exact duplicates of the real things to provide use as intended.

Government failure to address that while addressing many other "less dangerous" issues I see as counter intuitive, and even idiotic.

NO parent can guarantee full supervision of their child 24/7. Those that do are usually charged with child imprisonment. Manufacturing a BB gun or toy to be clearly discernable as either would "help to prevent" at least some of these regrettable deaths.
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Old 09-16-2016, 10:26 AM
 
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Oh please. The gun, toy or other, isn't the issue. I don't understand why we allow "parents" to manufacture offspring that are identical in every way to thugs and murderers. We should be prosecuting these so-called parents when their minor-aged children commit violent criminal acts.
Oh please. As if the only child shot by a cop while holding one was a thug or engaging in criminal behaviour.

What is with you not seeing that even innocent children can be victims of manufacturing culpability?

Careful; your racial bias is peeking out from under your single eyebrow.
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Old 09-16-2016, 10:57 AM
 
Location: CT
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Given my use of the AR-15 comment in it's context mean't to illustrate the government's contradiction in logic; what target is it you think I'm incorrectly aiming at?

Manufactures deliberately designing BB guns and toy pistols to be an exact replica to their firearm counterparts I view as irresponsible. Neither of those need to be exact duplicates of the real things to provide use as intended.

Government failure to address that while addressing many other "less dangerous" issues I see as counter intuitive, and even idiotic.

NO parent can guarantee full supervision of their child 24/7. Those that do are usually charged with child imprisonment. Manufacturing a BB gun or toy to be clearly discernable as either would "help to prevent" at least some of these regrettable deaths.
If this is such a serious issue, how many kids are killed every year because the bb gun they have is a replica of a real one? If you want these guns to "look" like toys, what do you suggest they look like? How do you make a gun look like a toy?
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Old 09-16-2016, 11:11 AM
 
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It's sad that those like yourself are so willing to just make crap up. Especially where a kid is concerned. He got it that day from a friend and he was at the park at the rec center where all the neighborhood kids went.

No shame.
Don't know where you got that, his uncle admitted taking the orange end off the gun. And that area was well known as a hangout for gang members. It was not a rec center it was a park.
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Old 09-16-2016, 11:12 AM
 
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There is no proof the kid broke any law.
It is illegal to pull a gun on anyone unless you are threatened and at 13 he could not have a legal gun.
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Old 09-16-2016, 11:13 AM
 
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Old 09-16-2016, 11:13 AM
 
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If this is such a serious issue, how many kids are killed every year because the bb gun they have is a replica of a real one? If you want these guns to "look" like toys, what do you suggest they look like? How do you make a gun look like a toy?
Make them a bright color.
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Old 09-16-2016, 11:17 AM
 
Location: CT
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Make them a bright color.
I posted this before, I'll post it again:

Police Officers Are Facing Split Seconds to Assess If a Suspect's Gun is Real or a Toy
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Old 09-16-2016, 12:32 PM
 
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So it is okay for you to speculate, it is not okay for others to?
I am asking questions, not making statements of fact where none are present.
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Old 09-16-2016, 12:34 PM
 
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i think we need to take guns away from cops, they have proven that they are not responsible adults either
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