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He gets the benefit of the doubt just the same as everyone (including this kid) until we see all the information. If it's 18 months from now and the force is still fighting it's release then I'll no longer give the benefit.
People think I am anti-police........just like I often times get called a "liberal" when in reality I am the exact opposite. Condemning poor police actions and the attempts to cover it up is a positive thing where good cops are concerned. We do not get to this place where every action is under a microscope without all the lies and cover ups.
When the bad cops are no longer automatically covered for by the system, it will make things far easier on the good officers.
THis officer and the one trying to defend the actions of this officer should be fired ASAP. It's things like this that have brought us here.
Condemning poor police actions and the attempts to cover it up is a positive thing where good cops are concerned. We do not get to this place where every action is under a microscope without all the lies and cover ups.
When the bad cops are no longer automatically covered for by the system, it will make things far easier on the good officers.
I agree with the first statement.
The second is where we disagree. I can tell you from personal experience that "The System" also includes many people who also agree with the first statement above, and devote their efforts to getting at the truth. That includes many LEO's who are cooperative with investigations, but who all too often are tarred with the same brush that should be reserved for the criminals in their ranks.
I swear to God some people in this country cannot wait for a bloody race war of some sort.
The officer was identified as Bryan Mason, a nine-year veteran of the force. Police records show that in 2012 he shot and killed a man who was holding another person at gunpoint. The Columbus Dispatch said investigators cleared him.
So it doesn't seem like the officer is a Pathological or a Compulsive Liar or a rookie, or a racist of some sort. Why not giving him the benefit of the doubt? This case is still under investigation.
Agree. The sad part is the media keeps putting an emphasis on the color of one's skin. Just report the news and leave that out of it.
The second is where we disagree. I can tell you from personal experience that "The System" also includes many people who also agree with the first statement above, and devote their efforts to getting at the truth. That includes many LEO's who are cooperative with investigations, but who all too often are tarred with the same brush that should be reserved for the criminals in their ranks.
There very well may be and it wouldn't surprise me. There have been many instances where an officer is fired for very legitimate reasons and then their union steps in and fights to get their job back. I would have to believe that those who initially fired the officer want to do the right thing.
In the end you are agreeing with me though......as you note, the good ones are getting part of the blame for the bad ones. I'm sure this doesn't sit well with many of the officers. We need a better way of getting rid of the bad ones.
I've also noted that we need to increase training and with increased training comes increased pay but that needs to also come with increased personal responsibility and expectations. We have to have faith in our justice system but there can be no faith when one side is allowed to lie without repercussions.
When civilians judge police shooting deaths-on juries, on review boards, in the media, in the community-this same argument is often brought forward. Shooting to wound is naively regarded as a reasonable means of stopping dangerous behavior.
In reality, this thinking is a result of 'training by Hollywood,' in which movie and TV cops are able to do anything to control the outcomes of events that serve the director's dramatic interests. It reflects a misconception of real-life dynamics and ends up imposing unrealistic expectations of skill on real-life officers.
People need to know the differences between police culture and civilian culture. European cops are different from American cops, why? because vast majority of the Europeans are not armed. This doesn't mean European cops are morally superior or something. We have a different culture here. So the issue is WAY too complicated.
Police in Ohio responding to a report of an armed robbery shot and killed a 13-year-old boy who they said pulled a gun from his waistband that was later determined to be a BB gun.
It happened Wednesday night in Columbus.
Police said officers were responding to a report of an armed robbery involving multiple suspects. When they arrived on the scene, they said the victim told them that a group of people approached him and demanded money. The victim said that one of them had a gun.
I don't understand why we allow these "toy" companies to manufacture the damn things to look absoutely identical in every respect to some long manufactured semi-automatic pistol.
Oh please. The gun, toy or other, isn't the issue. I don't understand why we allow "parents" to manufacture offspring that are identical in every way to thugs and murderers. We should be prosecuting these so-called parents when their minor-aged children commit violent criminal acts.
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