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"OPCs are marketed for a wide variety of uses. As yet, however, there is no solid evidence that they are effective for any medical condition."
As has been pointed out to you, if you take anything to prevent a condition you never would have had anyway, it would make it look like what you took was effective when it really did nothing at all. That is why anecdotal experiences cannot prove a supplement works.
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Originally Posted by hawkeye2009
We check for Magnesium all the time when we are working up peripheral neuropathies. I cannot recall a single patient tested in the last year that had low magnesium levels- not one.
Supplemental Ca does little, if anything, for osteoporosis. Vit D deficiency, however, is widespread.
I'll have to give this one to jaminhealth. Many people get a suboptimal amount of magnesium based on dietary surveys.
Good, and my bil just went thru 6 sessions of radiation for prostate cancer. I told him about saw palmetto and of course, it's too late once the cancer is there.
Just remember, your doctors need UNWELL people for their nice paychecks.
So I don't count much on Vit D from the so called fortified foods.
Get tested and see where your levels are. If you are in the SUN a LOT you could be OK. I was fine until I came in from years of SUN in my early 50's...then the Vit D got pretty empty.
Cutting out entire food groups from your diet and relying on "supps' is not the optimal approach to health.
You have said you eat no grains and no "milks" - which would exclude all dairy products. That does not leave much to eat.
I agree that the vitamin D question is easy to answer. Get a blood level. If you need more, you are treating a deficiency. You will take vitamin D as a medicine, not a "supp".
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From a person on Open Parachute:
"All fluoride is not the SAME.
ok, let’s provide some education here. Fluoride in its natural state is labelled F- and is very rarely found alone, it is mostly found attached to other elements so it needs to get extracted. Now the “fluoride” found in city water is mostly hydrofluorisilic acid which is a CHEMICAL WASTE by product of the phosphate mines like the ones in Florida. This is very toxic and less than a cup is deadly if ingested. It is highly corrosive and city employees who handle that stuff have to wear a full hazmat suit. Mercury is poisonous, I don’t care if you dilute it in water, it’s still is poisonous. let’s stop calling things the wrong thing, fluoride in city water is not FLUORIDE!!!!! Freedom of speech is a great thing but most should really do their research before opening their mouth."
What an amazing display of ignorance of chemistry. Fluoride ion is the same no matter where it comes from. This article will not allow cut and paste, but it explains in layman's terms the chemistry of water fluoridation.
So apparently bread has Vitamin D. Well now I'm even more confused why the test results showed I had a vitamin D deficiency. I have bread regularly for breakfast in addition to exposure to sun....snip...
I'm in Canada....In the US, unlike Canada, where fortification with vitamin D is mandatory for designated foods, the addition of vitamin D to eligible foods in the United States is optional in most cases. I would suggest that you check the nutrition facts label on the products you consume....I believe the best natural food source for vitamin D is fatty fish such as wild harvested salmon.
Good, and my bil just went thru 6 sessions of radiation for prostate cancer. I told him about saw palmetto and of course, it's too late once the cancer is there.
Just remember, your doctors need UNWELL people for their nice paychecks.
Actually, when he does his probing and looks at my PSA test, he gives me few more years to live - just kidding (clean bill of health). Other than renewing my prescription for potassium citrate which, knock on wood; has kept me from developing new kidney stones (you don't want to go there)! It is amazing how much pain one little stone can give you.
Tell you what; here is a 'natural' remedy that has been studied for kidney stones: Riding A Roller Coaster Can Help Get Rid Of Kidney Stones | IFLScience. I think I'll stick with my potassium citrate. By the way; the potassium citrate only works on the uric acid stones and not on the calcium oxalate ones.
Actually, when he does his probing and looks at my PSA test, he gives me few more years to live - just kidding (clean bill of health). Other than renewing my prescription for potassium citrate which, knock on wood; has kept me from developing new kidney stones (you don't want to go there)! It is amazing how much pain one little stone can give you.
Tell you what; here is a 'natural' remedy that has been studied for kidney stones: Riding A Roller Coaster Can Help Get Rid Of Kidney Stones | IFLScience. I think I'll stick with my potassium citrate. By the way; the potassium citrate only works on the uric acid stones and not on the calcium oxalate ones.
I've never had a stone and HOPE I never do. I've been taking extra potassium citrate or gluconate daily for years. I KNOW I don't get enough potassium rich foods daily. The so called RDA is 4700mg for healthy potassium levels and a medium banana has about 100mg.
Glad you are on top of the prostate and look MAYBE at saw palmetto as I did some reading the other day and a lot of good comments, even good for women's health. Knowing my bil, they are not on top of supplements.
I've never had a stone and HOPE I never do. I've been taking extra potassium citrate or gluconate daily for years. I KNOW I don't get enough potassium rich foods daily. The so called RDA is 4700mg for healthy potassium levels and a medium banana has about 100mg.
Glad you are on top of the prostate and look MAYBE at saw palmetto as I did some reading the other day and a lot of good comments, even good for women's health. Knowing my bil, they are not on top of supplements.
At 69 or 78 you are not likely to die from prostrate cancer: Prostate Cancer - In-Depth Report - NY Times Health. I quote: "Prostate cancer occurs almost exclusively in men over age 40 and most often after age 50. Two-thirds of prostate cancers are found in men over age 65. By age 70, about 65% of men have at least microscopic evidence of prostate cancers. Fortunately, the cancer is usually very slow growing and older men with the cancer typically die of something else." That does not mean that you should not be checked; how would you know if you have an aggressive cancer or the 'standard' 'slow growing' variety?
I get my blood and urine checked to see if I am taking the right amount of potassium citrate. It is not an over-the-counter medication at my dosage.
At 69 or 78 you are not likely to die from prostrate cancer: Prostate Cancer - In-Depth Report - NY Times Health. I quote: "Prostate cancer occurs almost exclusively in men over age 40 and most often after age 50. Two-thirds of prostate cancers are found in men over age 65. By age 70, about 65% of men have at least microscopic evidence of prostate cancers. Fortunately, the cancer is usually very slow growing and older men with the cancer typically die of something else." That does not mean that you should not be checked; how would you know if you have an aggressive cancer or the 'standard' 'slow growing' variety?
I get my blood and urine checked to see if I am taking the right amount of potassium citrate. It is not an over-the-counter medication at my dosage.
Iodine is Important for all body tissues and for cancer prevention in the breasts, thyroid and more
I've been dosing with Iodine for years and MDs I've seen over many years NEVER mentioned this prevention tool. How about you, has your MD ever brought this up to you fisheye?
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