Medical INDUSTRY does NOT want to Heal & Cure (ethics, gasoline, 9/11)
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Of course they're not trained in that. My acquaintance -- the one who lost her license for telling her patients to eat healthier -- told me that they get all of two days of nutritional instruction in medical school.
Are you sure that is the true reason why that occurred? It's very rare for a license to be lost. More commonly they will require extra education in the deficit area. The most common reason to lose a license is to be caught multiple times using improperly addicting drugs.
Go online and look up the actual board order to see the true reason. Diet does have its place in therapy but if you swear by diet alone and nothing else, that can be malpractice.
The medical industry is a for profit entity. They do not make money from the healthy or the dead. Therefore they specialize in keeping us alive enough to pay their bills.
This means is that our health is up to us individually. Each one of us has the responsibility for our own well-being. There is a ton of information available to all on healthy living. The medical profession is wonderful if you need surgery, but otherwise, it is doesn't have a clue.
Our bodies will heal itself if we remove the toxins and eat and drink healthy foods.
However if you think you can frequent fast food joints and suck up diet sodas and the like I suggest making arrangements with an undertaker.
This means is that our health is up to us individually. Each one of us has the responsibility for our own well-being. There is a ton of information available to all on healthy living. The medical profession is wonderful if you need surgery, but otherwise, it is doesn't have a clue.
This.
And honestly, anyone seeing a nutritionist could get better info at the same price by doing the following:
Google the words "good nutrition"
Take the money you would have paid a nutritionist and light it on fire.
On this - I look at doctors like 1st level tech support who in their spare time might have a really serious specialty in the world of computing. But if you asked that tech support about a specific program you should run to keep your PC healthy, you'd get 1,000 different answers if you asked 1,000 people.
And this isn't directed at your comment, just that your comment got me thinking...
As an IT person married to a nurse, I remark on this similar "you are supposed to know everything I am about to ask about" mentality we both get all the time, when the fact is, for a lot of people in a lot of jobs, they know THEIR thing and not much outside of it. It's my main issue with doctors, because like them, I am expected to know everything under the Sun about ALL technology ever. Sad fact - I don't and neither does any pro, educated, multi-degreed geek like me. I give doctors that same credit. They may indeed have a specific area of practice, but even that makes them 2nd level tech support for that area and 1st level...maybe...for everything else.
That's who we are asking all these medical questions of, and they probably have most of their answers provided by the same place you'd find them - Google.
The only value I place in physical exams is not the doctor's appraisal of the results, but the the process of obtaining test results themselves. I know from Google what good ranges are for the various stuff general practitioners examine, so I get the results, blank out while they explain stuff, then take the results and go on Google to get a clearer understanding. Honestly, if there was a way to simply send my various fluids to Google and get values/readings, and just WebMD all of it, I'd never see a doctor again until a repair was required. I don't fault doctors for this, I simply respect how trivial 1st and 2nd level tech support is.
I don't think the average doctor cares much one way or the other if this disease or that gets cured. They went to a crapload of school, racked up craploads of debt, and now work craploads of hours to pay that back and maybe have a better than average shot at the good life in their 50s-60s. They see patients, do their level best to do right by each one, punch the time clock, go home to the family, lather rinse repeat for the next 30-40 years...just like the rest of us. I am not knocking them at all, I just figure they are like any other profession, running the same kind of rat race without all the nobility and deity-like power we seek to imbue them with.
This is very true. After spending 25% of your life and hundreds of thousands of dollars .... most are not going to rock the boat. They do the JOB like other people who have JOBS.
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Originally Posted by genesiss23
Are you sure that is the true reason why that occurred? It's very rare for a license to be lost. More commonly they will require extra education in the deficit area. The most common reason to lose a license is to be caught multiple times using improperly addicting drugs.
Go online and look up the actual board order to see the true reason. Diet does have its place in therapy but if you swear by diet alone and nothing else, that can be malpractice.
Not following "standard of care", which translates to not prescribing enough drugs and procedures, even though her patients routinely got better on diet and more traditional remedies. She encouraged her patients to eat organic diets free of wheat and light on red meat.
Also, political activism in the district she lived and practiced in.
These are the reasons she was ruined professionally. I have no reason to doubt the veracity of her account.
Not following "standard of care", which translates to not prescribing enough drugs
I totally buy this as a cause for censure or even yanking the license. It is big business with heavy government involvement, the prescribing of drugs for every this, that and something else. Doctors who eschew that business model and do so with any sort of voice would be pariahs within their profession because that is a fat apple cart that money just rains from, and upsetting that cart would be seriously bad juju.
I don't doubt the veracity of the story either, because people getting wrecked for going against status quos, especially ones that involve government and money changing hands...yeah, that is all too common.
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This is very true. After spending 25% of your life and hundreds of thousands of dollars .... most are not going to rock the boat. They do the JOB like other people who have JOBS.
Because at the end of the day? It's a JOB.
And there is nothing wrong with being that way. FFS, I am that way, because common sense dictates certain realities, and paying my bills is a reality I am good with.
Just saying that we needn't deify these folks and realize they are workers in an often thankless gig. They don't know everything, they are not omnipotent or omniscient, and they aren't community servants who wake up devoted to our every need. They are workers, doing a gig, getting paid, hoping to retire to a beach and some slushy drinks. Just ordinary people who attended a crapton of school. Respect them, yes, but respect that they weren't touched by G-d, they simply read the books they were assigned in school. I salute the achievement, but no the point of anointing them demigods.
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I totally buy this as a cause for censure or even yanking the license. It is big business with heavy government involvement, the prescribing of drugs for every this, that and something else. Doctors who eschew that business model and do so with any sort of voice would be pariahs within their profession because that is a fat apple cart that money just rains from, and upsetting that cart would be seriously bad juju.
I don't doubt the veracity of the story either, because people getting wrecked for going against status quos, especially ones that involve government and money changing hands...yeah, that is all too common.
Not following "standard of care", which translates to not prescribing enough drugs and procedures, even though her patients routinely got better on diet and more traditional remedies. She encouraged her patients to eat organic diets free of wheat and light on red meat.
Also, political activism in the district she lived and practiced in.
These are the reasons she was ruined professionally. I have no reason to doubt the veracity of her account.
I see you did not look at my link. "Standard of care" for hypertension includes lifestyle adjustments. She's being disingenuous.
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I see you did not look at my link. "Standard of care" for hypertension includes lifestyle adjustments. She's being disingenuous.
If you say so.
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